marc, i'm glad you liked it. i hope you got at least about a minute and 
a half into it with both on, where rob is saying "societies don't just 
fall to pieces when they receive a shock from the outside", and of 
course there's massive destruction on the other side.

i think the main point is a question: is the transition effort up 
against something insurmountable (fate?)?


marc garrett wrote:
> I like the combination - I had to turn off the Apocalypse movie, so I 
> could listen to what Rob Hopkins was saying - which I suppose 
> illustrates the point really - thanks.
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