I./...WHICH GOVERNMENT/?/...SOME...ABSTRACT...GOVERNMENT/?/...WHERE'S YOUR 
GOVERNMENT/?/...*MAIN SUBJECT*/TERM TAKEN FROM J.HABERMAS/-USA- IS UNIVERSAL 
GOVERNMENT...ALL OTHERS ARE MORE...OR...LESS..IMPORTANT SECTIONS...
II./...WE HAVE IN SERBIA PARADIGM THAT OUR GOVERNMENT IS NOT EVEN BRANCH OF 
*MAIN SUBJECT*...IT'S /CONSIDERED ART AND ART INFRASTRUCTURE/ PROVINCES OF 
GEORGE SOROS 'HIGH' INTERES/*HUMAN RIGHTS WITH TASTE OF SLAVERY*/...ART WAS 
CHIPEST AND HE BUY IT/WITH PEOPLE AND BUILDINGS/...
III./IN ONE REVIEW ON LEW MANOWICH'S TEXT/RHIZOME...FEW YEARS AGO/ON HIS 
INTRODUCTION/PARAPHRASE/'WE LIVE IN TIME OF REMIX'...I WROTE THAT THERE 
ISN'T ANY *WE*...IT'S ONLY *US*/WEST WITH RULE IDEOLOGY OF CORPORATIVE 
CAPITALISM/ AND others...PERIPHERY/ SOMETIMES IT'S NAMED AS 'THIRD WORLD'/
IV./IT'S OBWIOUS YOUR TALK ABOUT*US* AND WITH THAT ACT YOU CONFIRM PRESENT 
STATE/DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING!/...THAT'S TYPICAL ATTITUDE FOR 
MIDLE-AGE-WELL-OFF CLERK ...AND YOU/IT'S OBVIOUS/ BELONG TO THAT 
BUREAUCRACY...
V./WE FIND IT'S FUNNY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS *OUR* PROBLEM...BECAUSE WE COULD 
TALK ONLY WHAT BOTHER *US*...BECAUSE THERE'S NOT other...ACTUALY other IS 
CONSTITUTIVE FOR *US*...BUT ONLY IN CASE WHEN *US* DON'T WANT TO RECOGNIZE 
THAT other...*US*RECOGNISE MICRO DIFFERENCE IN HIS OWN SYSTEM...AND WITH 
EXPANSIVE POLITICS/WAR AND POST-NEO-COLONIAL.../MAKE SUSPSTITUTE FOR MISSING 
other...
VI./*WE*DON'T BELONG TO *US*...THAT'S WHY GOVERNMENT WHO TAKE CARE ONLY 
ABOUT *US* NEVER COUNT ON other...EXCEPT AS SLAVE...
MANIK...JULY...2010...
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Simon Biggs" <[email protected]>
To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" 
<[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: bblackboxx.ch]


It's nice to know you have a means for quantifying the value of both your
education and art. The government should offer you a job as they have been
trying to measure these things for years.

Best

Simon


Simon Biggs
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Skype: simonbiggsuk
http://www.littlepig.org.uk/

Research Professor  edinburgh college of art
http://www.eca.ac.uk/
Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments
http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/
Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in Practice
http://www.elmcip.net/
Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts
http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts


> From: James Morris <[email protected]>
> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:43:19 +0100
> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
> <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] [Fwd: bblackboxx.ch]
>
> On 28 July 2010 09:36, James Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 27 July 2010 13:50, Andreas Jacobs <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> James,
>>>
>>> It is non-visual art, so we can easily close our eyes for it.
>>>
>>> When we do not see or touch it, it ceased to exist in a material world
>>>
>>> The remnants are immaterial socially constructed imagination exercises
>>> for and by 'Liebhaber', German language for amateurs.
>>>
>>> Not intending to be insulting, but I do think James made a point with
>>> his, maybe exaggarated, remarks.
>>>
>>> Me personally, like more anti-social art forms but that is because of
>>> my particular societal conditions
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
>>>
>>
>>
>> yes i'm an amateur, a dilettante with a desultory practice, a dreamer.
>>
>> there's no way in hell i'll ever seriously contemplate make a living
>> from being an artist unless enough money to do so is handed to me on a
>> plate.
>>
>> at this moment in time, i only want a job (which i have on a temporary
>> contract (away from the clutches of the agency)). ideally it would be
>> a job with less hours and pays better, but 8 hrs a day 5 days a week
>> for almost £200 take-home (per week) is better than nothing.
>>
>> i find tree-climbing workshops insulting.
>>
>
> The only thing art has ever done for me, is given me a £12000 student
> debt, a mechanism for making stuff out of my bitterness.
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