Miro Foundation, Museum of Contemporary Art, Picasso Museum, Museum of 
Pre-Columbian art ( across the street from the Picasso museum) and the Tapies 
Foundation all great!

http://www.bodegasepulveda.net/en/ubicacion.html
is a nice place to have lunch...
m.

--- On Mon, 10/25/10, Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Kevin Flanagan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] The Telekommunist Manifesto from Dmytri Kleiner 
> is out now!
> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" 
> <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 2:18 PM
> Hello All,
> 
> On the subject of Free Culture I'm on my way to Barcelona
> for the
> http://2010.fcforum.net/en
> Its my first time in Barcelona
> Anyone been there before?
> Any recommendations?
> 
> All the best
> 
> Kevin
> 
> 
> On 25 October 2010 12:26, marc garrett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > Hi Andreas,
> >
> > Thanks for your patience, I will call you Andreas if
> you don't mind.
> >
> > I have been enjoying looking at the many art, theory
> & projects on
> > Nictoglobe - it's a great archive. Such as Darko
> Fritz's 204_NO_CONTENT
> > http://www.nictoglobe.com/new/ainac2010/darko.html
> >
> > I noticed that you were also involved in BBS culture
> like myself :-)
> >
> > wishing you well.
> >
> > marc
> >
> >
> >
> >  > Hi Marc
> >  >
> >  > Yes, thanks for asking
> >  >
> >  > My name is
> >  >
> >  > Andreas Maria Jacobs
> >  >
> >  > But I use also (since 1985)
> >  >
> >  > Agam Andreas or A. Andreas
> >  >
> >  > You can call me Andreas or Agam whatever you
> prefer
> >  >
> >  > Sorry for any possible confusion
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Andreas Maria Jacobs
> >  >
> >  > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> >  > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
> >  >
> >  > On 24 Oct 2010, at 23:10, marc garrett <[email protected]>
> >  > wrote:
> >  >
> >  >> Hi Andreas,
> >  >>
> >  >> I'm sure you knew ;-)
> >  >>
> >  >> -----
> >  >>
> >  >> Could I just ask you a question?
> >  >>
> >  >> Is your name also 'Agam (A.) Andreas' ?
> >  >>
> >  >> what name should I use in the future?
> >  >>
> >  >> Much thanks
> >  >>
> >  >> marc
> >  >>> Hi Marc
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Thanks for your clarification of the
> subject, I was already wondering
> >  >>> what it was all about, now I am
> informed
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Thanks again
> >  >>>
> >  >>> Andreas Maria Jacobs
> >  >>>
> >  >>> w: http://www.nictoglobe.com
> >  >>> w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl
> >  >>>
> >  >>> "Politics is the Architecture of
> Death"
> >  >>>
> >  >>> On 24 Oct 2010, at 18:07, marc garrett
> >  >>> <[email protected]>
> >  >>> wrote:
> >  >>>
> >  >>>
> >  >>>> Hi Rob & all,
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Thanks for the link to the P2P
> (Foundation) conversation between
> >  >>>> Michel
> >  >>>> Bauwens & Geert Lovink.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Lovink's relationship with 'free
> culture' comes from a micro
> >  >>>> perspective, influenced by
> connections built around an active
> >  >>>> respect
> >  >>>> for the idea, and possibly a
> personal reliance on structures which
> >  >>>> rely
> >  >>>> on frameworks dedicated, in
> supporting some form of 'official'
> >  >>>> authority. This creates a less
> socially grounded and intuitive
> >  >>>> understanding of why people are
> engaged in such things.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Things cannot always be defined
> through theory or through
> >  >>>> 'officially'
> >  >>>> culturalized platforms or accepted
> intellectually condoned
> >  >>>> hierarchies
> >  >>>> alone. To be truly engaged, one has
> to cross over into different
> >  >>>> elements of being, connecting and
> touching - not necessarily because
> >  >>>> it's part of one's practice, but
> because it relates to everyday life
> >  >>>> and
> >  >>>> experience as well. Thankfully,
> such things can't be measured,
> >  >>>> packaged
> >  >>>> made into chewable concepts so
> easily. Where ever we happen stand to
> >  >>>> stand in the scheme of things, we
> only possess part of the picture,
> >  >>>> not
> >  >>>> the whole thing.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Yet, what this situation
> communicates to me, is that many out there
> >  >>>> feel
> >  >>>> they know or have a particular
> advantage of the bigger picture
> >  >>>> because
> >  >>>> of their positions in relation to
> their privilege, rather than their
> >  >>>> actual engagement in a field such
> as free culture. And what
> >  >>>> theorists
> >  >>>> want, really does not matter - it's
> what people want that matters
> >  >>>> precisely because they are the
> users the community.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> "At the moment the amateurs are
> blocking the careers of entire
> >  >>>> generations of young professionals.
> With this the rich knowledge of
> >  >>>> professions is threatened to
> disappear (for instance those doing
> >  >>>> investigative journalism). We have
> to stop this talent drain and not
> >  >>>> create economies that have to live
> off charity. Free networks should
> >  >>>> take themselves more serious. The
> first step to get there should
> >  >>>> be to
> >  >>>> critically investigate the
> ‘ideology of the free’. New forms of
> >  >>>> production, as you call it, cost
> money. We need to circulate money
> >  >>>> so
> >  >>>> that it can flow into those circles
> that have taken up the task to
> >  >>>> seriously construct tomorrow’s
> tools.”
> >  >>>> (http://www.digicult.it/digimag/article.asp?id=1148)"
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> I disagree with the idea that
> amateurs are the enemy. Free culture
> >  >>>> is
> >  >>>> dictated and driven by amateurs'
> and their very human behaviours,
> >  >>>> just
> >  >>>> as much as by anyone else. This may
> trouble those who wish to
> >  >>>> control it.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> The other thing is that, critical
> engagement does not always have to
> >  >>>> be
> >  >>>> defined through specific groups of
> people. Creating a professional
> >  >>>> class
> >  >>>> may sound like a pretty decent idea
> to some, but for something to
> >  >>>> really
> >  >>>> have social significance and a
> cultural life, it needs to be allowed
> >  >>>> to
> >  >>>> live beyond a hermetically sealed
> vacuum.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Having said all this, I feel that
> is Geert as an individual does
> >  >>>> propose
> >  >>>> some interesting arguments. What he
> proposes may not necessarily sit
> >  >>>> right, but they address important
> questions around how and why
> >  >>>> things
> >  >>>> 'should' always be free. If we want
> something to be free, perhaps
> >  >>>> the
> >  >>>> motives and ideas need to be
> explored more regularly or more deeply,
> >  >>>> rather than everyone just accepting
> and adopting the idea of it as
> >  >>>> an
> >  >>>> absolute. It's a bit like accepting
> democracy without knowing why
> >  >>>> its
> >  >>>> there in the first place - perhaps
> we just need to remind ourselves
> >  >>>> why
> >  >>>> we have it.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> Wishing you well.
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>> marc
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>> "While such a critique is of
> course welcome and necessary, I was
> >  >>>>> rather
> >  >>>>> shocked in Venice when I
> listened to such a lecture, to discover
> >  >>>>> that
> >  >>>>> Geert Lovink’s considers the
> free culture movement as an enem
> >  >>>>> y, be
> >  >>>>> cause
> >  >>>>> it advocates everything to be
> free. Geert presented the following
> >  >>>>> expressions of free as ‘the
> enemy’: the freeconomic ideas of Ch
> >  >>>>> ris
> >  >>>>> Anderson (who in fact, also
> does not advocate everything to be
> >  >>>>> free, but
> >  >>>>> rather explains its economic
> rationale in a era of very cheap
> >  >>>>> digital
> >  >>>>> reproducibility), the Oxcars
> free culture festival (which pays it
> >  >>>>> artists!), and the Barcelona
> charter on digital rights. This
> >  >>>>> equation is
> >  >>>>> of course entirely untrue, and
> I was surprised that someone of Gee
> >  >>>>> rt’s
> >  >>>>> stature, could make the classic
> mistake between free speech and
> >  >>>>> free
> >  >>>>> beer, which has been clarified
> ages ago."
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>>
> >  >>>>
> > http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/on-the-difference-between-free-speech-and-free-beer-free-culture-as-people-want-to-be-free/2010/05/25
> >  >>>>
> >  >>>>>
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