Hi Alan What's up in SL then? Is island real estate going through the roof? Who is driving that - Linden or users? If bond traders and hedgers determine the real economy who is determining the SL economy?
Best Simon Simon Biggs [email protected] [email protected] Skype: simonbiggsuk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ Research Professor edinburgh college of art http://www.eca.ac.uk/ Creative Interdisciplinary Research in CoLlaborative Environments http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in Practice http://www.elmcip.net/ Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts > From: Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> > Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <[email protected]> > Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:56:47 -0500 (EST) > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Long Live the Web. > > > > It parallels development and enclaving in general; once a land parcel is > desecrated with McMansions, the eco-system and attendant species are gone > forever. You can see the change on the street in NY - more and more > fantastically expensive cars, more and more homeless. Mike Davis predicted > it all. Fox News is another example in an odd way; they dominate through > propaganda passing as news, and now that they're making substantial > inroads into Congress, net neutrality, which might be their last enemy, is > going to go under the knife again. And once net neutrality disappears > (don't forget that corporations are now 'freed' to give what they want, > without accountability, to political campaigns here), it won't return. > > I keep thinking backing to Fidonet and BBS; these kinds of private > networks might become deeply relevant again. > > Meanwhile Second Life is going through its own parallel convulsions, with > education discounts etc. disappear and rental going sky-high. Odyssey and > East of Odyssey - where I've worked for years - are close to disappearing. > > - Alan > > > On Sat, 20 Nov 2010, Simon Biggs wrote: > >> They sought to do the same thing in the US earlier this year, with a senate >> (Republican) sponsored attempt to abolish net neutrality. Happily Obama >> affirmed the sustained legal status of NN. Hopefully that will remain the >> case for some more years - but vested interests will try again. The internet >> is becoming and will soon be the key information and communications >> technology for all media. Those companies that currently dominate the old >> media will seek to dominate the new. Those wars are yet to be fought and >> they will be bitter. Looks like in the UK the old media hegemony has been >> allowed dominance without a fight. Given the current government perhaps the >> only way to stop this would be pan-EU legislation. Contact your MEP. >> >> Best >> >> Simon >> >> >> Simon Biggs >> [email protected] [email protected] >> Skype: simonbiggsuk >> http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ >> >> Research Professor edinburgh college of art >> http://www.eca.ac.uk/ >> Creative Interdisciplinary Research in CoLlaborative Environments >> http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ >> Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in Practice >> http://www.elmcip.net/ >> Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts >> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts >> >> >>> From: dave miller <[email protected]> >>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>> <[email protected]> >>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 16:53:29 +0000 >>> To: <[email protected]>, NetBehaviour for networked distributed >>> creativity <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Long Live the Web. >>> >>> well said ruth >>> >>> There are many parties who want to make money out of the internet - >>> through walled gardens, highway tolls etc, and I agree with simon that >>> this is probably the Murdoch agenda, back to a broadcast/ propaganda >>> model. I think the way they want it is for access to the big money >>> sites (facebook, ebay, bbc, murdoch sites) to be fast, and to the rest >>> of the web slow (like 56k modem speed). Eventually they hope we'll all >>> give up viewing and publishing to the small independent web sites as >>> they'll be too slow and practically unusable. >>> >>> The Ed Vaizey plan is really really scary, and is a clear example of >>> government acting against the interests and needs of the people. >>> >>> Maybe there are agendas beyond money here as well, that information is >>> power, and the Internet as communication revolution, parallels with >>> the church smashing up the printing presses in the middle ages. >>> >>> Once they've ruined this one, we can always start another Internet - >>> or can we? Would this be possible - as we have to depend on existing >>> telecommunications networks? >>> >>> dave >>> >>> On 20 November 2010 14:43, Ruth Catlow <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Ahem! >>>> I undermined my own vent with my illiteracy. >>>> I'm told it's "MYOPIC" >>>> >>>> still the steam, streams from my ears. >>>> >>>> : >>>> : >>>> B - ( >>>> : >>>> : >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ruth Catlow <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-to: [email protected], NetBehaviour for networked >>>> distributed creativity <[email protected]> >>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Long Live the Web. >>>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:36:22 +0000 >>>> >>>> !!!!!!!DUMB!!!!SELFISH!!!!DESTRUCTIVE!!!!ARROGANT!!!!MIOPIC!!!!!COMPLACENT! >>>> !! >>>> !BASTARDS!!!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Simon Biggs <[email protected]> >>>> Reply-to: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Long Live the Web. >>>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 14:14:23 +0000 >>>> >>>> Berners-Lee would then appreciate (not) the UK government's announcement it >>>> will permit ISPs and other gatekeepers to abandon net neutrality and give >>>> premium providers (not users) improved bandwidth. That is the beginning of >>>> a >>>> shift in the web, from a many to many to a few to the many model. >>>> Effectively broadcast. Sky will love them - and I'm sure this is part of >>>> the >>>> price Murdoch has demanded of the current government to support them so >>>> vigorously. >>>> >>>> Best >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> Simon Biggs >>>> [email protected] [email protected] >>>> Skype: simonbiggsuk >>>> http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ >>>> >>>> Research Professor edinburgh college of art >>>> http://www.eca.ac.uk/ >>>> Creative Interdisciplinary Research in CoLlaborative Environments >>>> http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ >>>> Electronic Literature as a Model of Creativity and Innovation in Practice >>>> http://www.elmcip.net/ >>>> Centre for Film, Performance and Media Arts >>>> http://www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: marc garrett <[email protected]> >>>>> Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:02:31 +0000 >>>>> To: netBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: [NetBehaviour] Long Live the Web. >>>>> >>>>> Long Live the Web. >>>>> >>>>> The Web is critical not merely to the digital revolution but to our >>>>> continued prosperity<and even our liberty. Like democracy itself, it >>>>> needs defending... >>>>> >>>>> By Tim Berners-Lee. >>>>> >>>>> The world wide web went live, on my physical desktop in Geneva, >>>>> Switzerland, in December 1990. It consisted of one Web site and one >>>>> browser, which happened to be on the same computer. The simple setup >>>>> demonstrated a profound concept: that any person could share information >>>>> with anyone else, anywhere. In this spirit, the Web spread quickly from >>>>> the grassroots up. Today, at its 20th anniversary, the Web is thoroughly >>>>> integrated into our daily lives. We take it for granted, expecting it to >>>>> ?be there? at any instant, like electricity. >>>>> >>>>> The Web evolved into a powerful, ubiquitous tool because it was built on >>>>> egalitarian principles and because thousands of individuals, >>>>> universities and companies have worked, both independently and together >>>>> as part of the World Wide Web Consortium, to expand its capabilities >>>>> based on those principles. >>>>> >>>>> The Web as we know it, however, is being threatened in different ways. >>>>> Some of its most successful inhabitants have begun to chip away at its >>>>> principles. Large social-networking sites are walling off information >>>>> posted by their users from the rest of the Web. Wireless Internet >>>>> providers are being tempted to slow traffic to sites with which they >>>>> have not made deals. Governments<totalitarian and democratic alike<are >>>>> monitoring people?s online habits, endangering important human rights. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=long-live-the-web >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number >>>> SC009201 >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> >> >> Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number >> SC009201 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> > > > == > email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > webpage http://www.alansondheim.org > music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > == > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
