East Anglia and Copenhagen were devastating for the profile of Climate
Change as a serious issue on the world agenda and the financial crisis
has only made things worse. How to recover from all this. Its scary
when you begin to think of it.
The leaks are a wake up call, one of the many and when power is laid
bare as it is somethings got to give

Kevin




On 4 December 2010 11:59, marc garrett <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Kevin,
>
> Yes, absolutely disgraceful.
>
> "Negotiating a climate treaty is a high-stakes game, not just because of
> the danger warming poses to civilisation but also because re-engineering
> the global economy to a low-carbon model will see the flow of billions
> of dollars redirected."
>
> I remember in November 2009, when the University of East Anglia's
> research site was hacked just a couple of days before the Copenhagen
> Climate talks. Later on, it was finally decided 'officially', that there
> was no evidence of scientific malpractice and "that while sharing of
> data and methods was in line with common scientific practice, it was
> desirable that there should be greater openness and information
> sharing." http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100922/full/467381a.html
>
> The coverage and the mainstream media's attacks on the scientists at the
> time, were pretty dumb and irresponsible; ignoring the obvious question
> of why these emails were hacked in the first place and by whom? It's
> like, if one suddenly decides to throw these blood hungry hounds a bone,
> they all suddenly chase in it one direction all together, before even
> thinking about why they are chasing it. It's certainly not about news,
> it's more about grabbing product to fill spaces, infotainment; without
> 'real' critical reasoning until its too late.
>
> wishing you well.
>
> marc
>
>  > It was so depressing when after all the hype the Copenhagen Climate
> talks were was a disaster.
>  > Now we know why
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-us-manipulated-climate-accord
>  > Disgraceful
>  >
>  > Kevin
>  >
>  > On 4 December 2010 11:03, Michael Szpakowski <[email protected]> wrote:
>  >
>  >     Absolutely - she couldn't have put it more clearly. What it
> shows, too, is our rulers' complete contempt for us, for ordinary
> people, who couldn't possibly be expected to understand what goes on in
> "diplomacy" or even allowed a sniff at it.
>  >     When I was in Poland in the summer of 1980, during the birth of
> Solidarity, the Polish workers showed how to bring the mighty down to
> size by insisting that all negotiations with the government be patched
> in to the public telephone system so that anyone who could pick up a
> phone could hear what was going on...
>  >     michael
>  >
>  >     --- On Sat, 12/4/10, marc garrett <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  >         From: marc garrett <[email protected]>
>  >         Subject: [NetBehaviour] My mum & Wikileaks...
>  >         To: "netBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
> <[email protected]>
>  >         Date: Saturday, December 4, 2010, 10:44 AM
>  >
>  >
>  >         My mum on the phone the other night, surprised me by saying
> that she
>  >         sees Julian Assange of Wikileaks, as a modern day Robin Hood
> - stealing
>  >         information from the rich and handing it over to the poor. I
> was proud
>  >         of her :-)
>  >
>  >         marc
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