On 1 February 2011 18:39, Joel Weishaus <weish...@pdx.edu> wrote:
> How about getting the money from a wealthy believer in free communication
> for the arts to build and put up a satelite?

I hear there's many of those on Gliese 581 g (a possible goldilocks
planet in the constellation of Libra).


>
> -Joel
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Simon Biggs" <si...@littlepig.org.uk>
> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
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> Cc: <ja...@consume.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Long Range Independent Infrastructures...
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>
> What about stealing satelite bandwidth? Is that possible? If there is an
> uplink at the centre of an (urban) network of wi-fi stations it might be
> possible to connect all the little urban islands together.
>
> Best
>
> Simon
>
>
> On 01/02/2011 13:15, "James Wallbank" <ja...@lowtech.org> wrote:
>
>> Hello All,
>>
>> Over the last few years Consume.Net and others have been talking about
>> independent network infrastructures - in other words, artists, activists
>> and other independently-minded people building communications networks
>> that don't rely on commercial service providers.
>>
>> While it's totally feasible to create free wifi hotspots, and you can
>> extend them to perhaps 500m range, this falls short of genuine, free
>> communication - the heavy lifting still gets done by the cable
>> providers. The problem is long range links.
>>
>> I don't propose to set out the arguments about why independent
>> communications infrastructures are interesting here, but just look at
>> the way that the Egyptian Government has just "switched off the
>> internet" or the way that WikiLeaks' commercial hosts dropped them like
>> a hot potato under who-knows-what pressure, and you start to see one
>> point.
>>
>> Either way around, the long-range link problem has been persistent -
>> sure, you can send slow digital signals (about 1200 baud) over shortwave
>> for hundreds of kilometers - apart from the fact that it's illegal, easy
>> to detect, and feasible to block. So what can the aspiring independent
>> communicator do?
>>
>> Ronja - point-to-point communications using high-intensity LEDs and
>> telescopes, is quite nice - these can have a range of a kilometer or
>> more. If you use infrared LEDs nobody notices you're communication,
>> either.
>>
>> Then one of our Access Spacers who's a radio ham saw this recent
>> experiment using light-arrays to transmit analog communications a cool
>> 87 kilometers. Now that's more like it! With a half-dozen relay points
>> we could start building a trans-regional network.
>>
>> Check it out! http://krystynahaywood.co.uk/sarc/2011/01/711/
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> James
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