I think the problem for me re: below is that art need not be a sensual experience, any more than a novel or sceintific theory need be. In a way, even the sublime is beyond sensuality, and from your viewpoint a lot of work - including conceptual art for example - is simply not art. As far as the fragility of networks and the Net (so to speak) - yes, this all could be brought down. But humans are good at dealing with available technology, making things work out of almost nothing (look at Make magazine for example - if you can afford it, another problem), and a lot of us would just move on to other media. Even years ago I remember making a slit-scan camera after seeing 2001 out of an army-surplus oscilloscope and second- hand magnifying lens. Make is full of things like that...
- Alan On Wed, 9 Feb 2011, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote: > More questions about the postion of the artist in an alienated network > > @Mez: > > "Am interested in how you define 'concepts' + 'art'?" > > > I think 'art' expresses something intangible, bigger and more > incomprehensable and universal than human existence in a more or less > tangible form, like for instance paint or stone or music or written > words, whereas a concept as artistic expression merely magnifies the > false and blasphemic claim of putting human existence as the sole > governor of the universe, a trend started centuries ago and resulting > in a extremely divided and alienated world where 'normal people' > without the means or academic education needed, are left alone as a > seperated non partaking consumer class > > @Rob: > > "No" > > How about people who are not connected to this networked world, the > people who just keep talking, discussing with their family and smaller > social circles not driven to the need to connect with the 'whole world > ' although technically speaking it is made possibble by the intermet? > > Is the networked group not seperating those, by its very technical > oriented way of exsisting? > > What happens when the internet is cut off likely to be happening more > and more in the near future? > > What if you cannot afford to pay the bill for your connection? > > @Alan: > > " - while concepts might not be art per se, there's certainly an > aesthetics at work -" > > > Aesthetics is hardly a ground for something being art, there is > beauty in everything once you learn how to see > > Concepts are, mostly, disconnecting the aesthetic experience from > sensual experience leaving the receiver with nothing but her > braincells to 'consume' it > > Thereby -again- leaving behind the 'unseperated whole' (Plotinus) and > dividing it in seperate pieces to be placed in the producer-consumer > chain, to be commodified again and again and again...... > > AA > > > Andreas Maria Jacobs > > w: http://www.nictoglobe.com > w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/qw.txt == _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
