...WE'VE READ YOUR MESSAGE VERY CAREFULLY...YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING...MANIK...MARCH...2011... ----- Original Message ----- From: Annie Abrahams To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Cc: Antonio Roberts ; manik Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ???
SO FAR YOU DOING WELL Oh how do I hate this expression It is making a power distiction between the one adressed and the adresser MANIK YOU GO TOO FAR You make me want to flee Annie On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Antonio Roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > SO FAR YOU DOING WELL Here's where I begin to overanalyse what you're saying. To say that I'm doing well suggests to me that I'll eventually get better and then somehow achieve something which goes back to my original problem of what the purpose of this is. Too much for Sunday On 27 March 2011 06:37, manik <[email protected]> wrote: > ...NOW YOU'VE MADE YOUR FIRST STEPS ON NETBEHAVIOUR... EMPHASIS WAS ON > *IF*/...WE KNOW YOU COULDN'T OWN IT...ACTUALLY NOBODY CAN'T...WE ALL TRY TO > MAKE SOME 'SHAPE'IN THAT FORM OF ...OR YOU EXPECT SOMETHING > DEEPER...?...MORE INTELLECTUAL OR TACTILE SATISFACTION IN THAT KIND OF > SOCIABLE...SO FAR YOU DOING WELL...MANIK...MARCH...2011... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Antonio Roberts" <[email protected]> > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:01 AM > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? > > >> ...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR >> ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED >> YOU...?... > Please, Antonio or Ant will do. > >> YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS >> MAN > Just a little bit ;-) > >> 'WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE FOR >> YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...? > I feel I could only ever own something that I've created. I didn't > create netbehaviour. Also, what do you mean by own? For me ownership > gives me some amount of control over thing owned thing. I don't have > any control over what happens here. I can attempt to shape it but it's > all out of my hands > > Ant > > On 26 March 2011 19:43, manik <[email protected]> wrote: >> ...ANTONIO...COULD WE CALL YOU TONY...?.../ON NETBEHAVIOUR >> ?/...SO..TOUN...ACTUALLY JUST T...BIG 'T'...COULD THAT SATISFIED >> YOU...?...WE HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU-YOU SEEM TO US LIKE REBELLIOUS >> MAN/HAVING THAT ON MIND/:''WHAT WILL YOU DO IF YOU COULD OWN SOME PLACE >> FOR >> YOUR ACTIVITY...SOMETHING LIKE NETBEHAVIOUR...?...BECAUSE-ALL OF US >> COULD/TRY/ DESCRIBE THE WORLD...BUT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE WORLD/PARAHPRASE >> OF ---SOMEBODY/...MANIK...MARCH...2011... >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Antonio Roberts" <[email protected]> >> To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" >> <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ??? >> >> >> Hi Marc, >> >> Thanks for this blurb about the list and what you do. Seems a little >> bit clearer now I think we actually met at the REFF opening (which I >> found out about from this list!) >> >> I think it's funny that I worry about getting things wrong on a list >> that has very little rules >> >> And now onwards! >> >> Ant >> >> On 26 March 2011 17:51, marc garrett <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> Hi Antonio, >>> >>> I am one of the co-founders of the netbehaviour list which is part of a >>> larger network, related neighbourhood of on-line & off-line projects & >>> communities, connected with the collective www.furtherfield.org >>> >>> Sorry for not responding earlier, but we have just got back from the >>> marches in London today. >>> >>> The list is an open environment which loosely exists for those who are >>> interested in art, technology & social change. Our history comes from >>> art, networked art, activism, hackivism, hacking, net art & media art, >>> media art ecologies etc. Unlike some groups out there we believe that >>> the resources we are engaged with in exploring with others, should be >>> free. And this also extends to how we all behave here, thus the name >>> netbehaviour. This list is a place where individuals & groups do not >>> need to pretend to each other, via a socially imposed interface from >>> institutionally run protocols. Thus, things can get a little messy here >>> every now & then. >>> >>> Through an organic processes of shared daily experience, this list >>> breaths an energy that hopefully allows a genuine & reflective noise, >>> which changes according to the values, of those using the list at the >>> time - it is a living thing of things - filled by creative minds who >>> wish to share via an unselfconscious understanding; that art need not be >>> just about declaring conclusions, but also a more naturally humane set >>> of different nuances, extremes & subtleties. Out of this, dialogue is >>> shared at various levels between artists, hackers, amateurs, musicians, >>> geeks, techies, curators, academics & more... >>> >>> We are all still learning here :-) >>> >>> wishing you well. >>> >>> marc >>>> I've surprisingly been subscribed to this list on and off for the last >>>> two years, though don't really post all that much. >>>> >>>> I think part of my problem in understanding what it's about can be >>>> related to my experience using Second Life. Because there's no goals >>>> or set agenda I'm never sure what to do or where to go. That, and I >>>> fear getting flamed for posting something off-topic >>>> >>>> I think I'll just try posting a few things and seeing how I get on. >>>> >>>> I'm sure it's a nice place, could do with some wallpaper though :-D >>>> >>>> Ant >>>> >>>> On 26 March 2011 14:32, Rob Myers<[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>> On 26/03/11 14:08, Antonio Roberts wrote: >>>>>> I've always wondered that myself. It seems like people juts post stuff >>>>>> here but I'm unsure if there's any rules as to what is allowed >>>>> It's very much an open list so news, announcements, links, comment, >>>>> discussion, art, work in progress, and anything else you can think of >>>>> on >>>>> the theme of media/network art and culture are all good. >>>>> >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/about.htm >>>>> >>>>> - - Rob. >>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) >>>>> >>>>> iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNjfjnAAoJEOqcdhxmxssCfVwH/3XO8CGLyTYmkcIlFWKv1coN >>>>> h1TRPMtte9hncPpnBvz6zzgB/yJ8kz2NNUNl+8gmwKAwrO+rdZQB+hLcAYGOoQ7c >>>>> GwdeQiJ/AyVENEvjLpqwCHD98rKgtbPv/9eHciIG9B3jT/EX0zU6URlvNCCsgAUG >>>>> DRTx0hPwR6x/LYDta+cN56lWSnOmeo2+eEzY82heTUhhvcE+mqn6CCMhaNfqJyRC >>>>> KrCAxNuQK5IP3Jk1XQy2Mzt99yKMCp3h/xQMaDQXUSQGQHerveRkHdFlYfhaMs54 >>>>> +GDb4qXRlEVBPXrYH7n5fxViVMsR36aCtq0HS4pJOq9gzufifAkkitV0WgGDyjI= >>>>> =TpKf >>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 30/03/2011 Performance/démo Rietveld academie Amsterdam http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/self-reflexivity-and-cinema-verite/ Vidéo, images "Pourquoi avons-nous des difficultés à ouvrir un ordinateur et en changer le disque dur ?" 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