7. Eight people treated for stab wounds.

Were either of you there?

I wasn't, but your sanguine view of events hardly seems to be borne out by
some of the reporting, including that from sources like the progressive TPM
blog: http://media.talkingpointsmemo.com/slideshow/vancouver-riots?ref=fpblg
.

I suggest there was provocation from the police and from a few thugs taking
the opportunity to brawl && the crowd swayed by events. When the crowd
destroys property, the police are designed to intervene (it's a social
priority). Not a good mix.

Sure, people were performing for the camera. There is a networked culture
that makes these events different. The same was probably true of
"celebrations" of bin Laden's death, people performing what they thought
were culturally endorsable scenes for instant documentation. Doesn't make
the jingoism any less disturbing nor the burning cars and injured people in
Vancouver just an over-the-top good time.

Coyotes don't do this: to equate their "running wild" with that of humans
seems a kind of willful romanticism grafted onto a rhetorical figure. But
maybe that's not the intention.

Even if, as a matter of degree, the merry trashing of Vancouver should not
be called a "riot," the violence in riots is no less performed. Participants
have described riots as parties from way back before the net.

The issue of who gets to decide what to call "uncontrolled crowd events"
strikes me as a more productive inquiry than casting them as one thing or
another.

-- Paul
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