"Wish you could learn to code by playing the violin or by singing"
or by washing up (I do a lot of it!) dave On 7 January 2012 18:03, ruth catlow <[email protected]> wrote: > On 07/01/2012 17:29, Pall Thayer wrote: >> I will also be happy to answer any coding questions that these new >> recruits may post to the list. > Well thanks Pall! > > I just had my first hour's lesson. And it made my brain feel old. And > reminded me that my slapdash nature caused me trouble last time I made > any real effort to learn code (php). > I can solve the little puzzles (it teaches by setting growing variations > and arrangements of problems) but the patterns don't stick. I guess its > like learning music- practice, practice, practice. Wish you could learn > to code by playing the violin or by singing. > > : ) > R >> >> I agree with Rob that learning some coding will help people gain more >> control over their use of technology. That being said, JavaScript >> isn't really going to get people far with this goal in mind. It is >> however a good introduction to coding principles. I would recommend >> Perl, Python or Ruby to those that want to make their existing >> computers "do more their way". PHP can also be used for local scripts. >> These languages all have their ups and downs. >> >> Ps. There are systems available that will let you create phone apps as >> HTML5+JavaScript. For instance appMobi (http://www.appmobi.com/). >> >> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Rob Myers<[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 07/01/12 15:18, Andreas Maria Jacobs wrote: >>>> Where and how are software skills degraded from a professional craft >>>> to a hobby 'free' time occupation? >>> There are two reasons why I suggest people on Netbehaviour learn to >>> program using these resources. Neither is so they can get jobs as code >>> monkeys. >>> >>> The first is so that they can get a feel for how code works. So they can >>> gain an insight into how the software they use every day, and that >>> affects their entire lives, works. This is important for thinking >>> critically and realistically about software. >>> >>> The second is so that they can use code as a tool to achieve their own >>> ends using software, less constrained by the fixed affordances of >>> applications and web sites. Data visualisation, digital humanities >>> techniques and web scripting are all useful ways of doing things with >>> software. >>> >>>> What are the benefits from it when being outsourced and jobless? >>> Software should not be an economic end in itself. It is a tool for >>> achieving other ends. This is its benefit to artists and activists and >>> academics, not that they might be able to make a living by writing code >>> for multinationals. >>> >>>> The naivity - also expressed in this list - surrounding software >>>> practices is astonishing >>> We don't leave culture to the culture industry or sex to the sex >>> industry. We shouldn't leave software to the software industry. >>> >>> - Rob. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
