I can understand why some people don't want to call themselves artists, even when they are. Mike Kelly, a very successful artist, was quoted as saying that if he'd known art was going to become as corporatised as it has he would never have chosen to be an artist (this quote has been viral on Twitter since his recent death). I wonder what he would have chosen to be - or would he have made up something new? This is what we need...
People consider what I do as art and assume I'm an artist. However, like Kelly and James, I became disillusioned with art and the art world a long time ago - not because I've been given a hard time (quite the contrary) but because I am disgusted at what seems to motivate many artists and the people who engage (and run) art professionally. It's become a laundry for dodgy money. Many artists, curators and cultural commentators are happy to join the circus. It is sad. Due to this I now think of what I do as the "practice once known as art". A programme I run, which is nominally in an art college (although for administrative reasons it is located in an architecture department) intentionally does not have the word art in its title (MSc by Research in Interdisciplinary Creative Practices). This allows us to work in ways that a course in our art department, with the expectation of producing artists to work in the art world, would struggle to consider, bound by a pre-determined framework of creative practice and engagement that is "art" as we now know it. Again, it's sad (hope my colleagues in art aren't reading this) to see students being primed as potential cannon-fodder for the art world. best Simon On 7 Feb 2012, at 14:29, isabel brison wrote: > Hello, > > Just wondering why you choose not to call yourself an artist. Because the > random stuff you post looks suspiciously like art to me... > > Isabel > > > On 6 February 2012 15:04, James Morris <ja...@jwm-art.net> wrote: > > Hi, > > I recently noticed that facebook warns people about links to my website > being malicious and surbl.org blacklists my domain name as associated > with spam. > > From what I can tell, some email clients allow filtering of messages > based upon these blacklists such as multi.surbl.org or ws.surbl.org and > it is within these lists where my domain is listed in. Spam filters > which use these lists scan the message _body_ and if a reference to a > blacklisted domain is found then the message is regarded as spam. > > I'm rather disappointed about this and it's lead me to wonder if maybe > something I've posted here is to blame. I know I've been argumentative > at times and been reactionary to things I dislike but I hope that the > actual work I've posted (not so much recent work) over the years has > made up for it. > > The artist career thing for me never took off and academically the > degree was as far as I got. Programming has become my focus and due to > that I find little time for anything else. > > With that in mind I'm left making posts on the occasional inspired > impulse. Hence the mobile-shot audio-clips and photographs from while > I'm at (factory)work. Or screenshots of software I'm trying to develop. > > Seems like I'm producing less and less art. But does it have to be art > to post here? I tend to focus on the "creativity" in the title to help > me justify my posts here. I have a memory (real or imagined) of when I > first subscribed of asked Marc if it was ok and he said 'for now'. > > The thing is I don't want to unsubscribe just because I'm not an artist > any more, but the impulses to post *random*stuff* are likely to be > around for a while... Unless people speak up to disuade me and give > good reasons for why and etc.... > > James. > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > -- > http://isabelbrison.blogspot.com/ > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ @SimonBiggsUK skype: simonbiggsuk s.bi...@ed.ac.uk Edinburgh College of Art, University of Edinburgh http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.movingtargets.co.uk/
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