Dear Annie,

Your email had me reach for a copy of Woolf's A Room of Ones Own (I still have to read Three Guineas). I hadn't read either and they have revived in me that whole set of uneases about attention to women's voice and process (and so yes that would include code) and the place (or lack of it) in our culture. It is nested in questions of class too. The idea that has particularly struck me is that inequities (with less opportunities, freedoms, access, encouragement (this is a big one), expectations) place both external contstraints on what someone might achieve but also causes a bitterness that can limits the scopes and freedoms of imagination to develop and express.

I hope to be attending the FLOSSIE conference in May (see below)and had planned to talk about some of the artworks that we curated into our online collection, Collaboration and Freedom, The World of Free and Open Source Art
http://p2pfoundation.net/World_of_Free_and_Open_Source_Art

and wonder if you would be willing to have a short off-list conversation to help me think further about why women seem to have so little presence in this area of work. If we make progress we could re-share here and I will include it in my presentation: )

Best things
Ruth
ps. other fem@le formats: olia lialina, shulea cheang, olga goranova (runme), tamiko thiel,

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On 18/03/2012 17:10, Annie Abrahams wrote:
Thanks a lot Ruth for this list.

Some names might not be accurate, because the curators statement states clearly that the show is about formats in the context of the Internet, but others would have been.

What then is the difference between the works included and the works made by some of the ladies of your list?

If I dare give it a try, The works in the show all are formal, they deal with very concrete and well defined formats that relate to clear weldefined structures and that give clear and controllable results. Quit a lot of works from your list deal with performance or human relations, and networks. This results in more fuzzy, fragile and sometimes even messy results.

I passed the list on to Christophe Bruno the curator of Form@ts.

Yours
Annie

Ps Quick translation of the curators statement for the show Form@ts:

The exhibition "Form@ts" focuses on the emergence, the obsolescence and the import-export of artistic concepts and art forms, in the context of the Internet. It features art projects that are each representative of the issue of format, not as a fixed form, but rather as a representation of a hybridization of a friction between several forms, often imported from other fields of representation and knowledge.

Formats are subject to phenomena such as hybridization, in many cases, their names result from the composition of different media forms and contexts from which they come like "webring", "live coding". Sometimes that hybridization is more complex and rich and the name of the resulting format is no longer as clear. Other times, the work will not be associated with a format as such, but a phenomenon of erosion, or a "bug" that appears structurally in a given context, in short, a side effect ("Side Effect ").



On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:18 PM, ruth catlow <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Super happy to see Rob's Balloon Dog getting seen as part of this
    exhibition : )

    Annie...
    Well perhaps Format (technical) stands for Form (artistic)
    I'm not sure I could (or would want to) find and define a "female"
    format but v. disheartened by what is either an unfortunate
    oversight or just a pure evil exclusion of work by women.

    There are many many many examples - these are just a tiny sliver
    of women who could have contributed a format to the project. I
    hesitate to make a list because of all the brilliant things that
    will then be excluded but just to show that this isn't just hot air.

    De Geuzen (Renee Turner, Riek Sijbring and Femke Snelting)- Female
    Icons and Anxiety Monitor
    Mary Flanagan - many many many, including Domestic - personal
    history told around the flaming walls of a gamespace
    Helen Varley Jamieson and Paula Crutchlow - Make-Shift  -
    participatory (audiences of two physical spaces) linked by
    artists' dramaturgy
    Upstage - Avatar Body Collision - cyberformance software platform
    and performance programme
    Annie Abrahams - The Big Kiss, Huit Clos, Angry Women +many many-
    networked performance
    Liz Sterry - Kay's Blog, real-world reconstruction of social life
    online
    Ele Carpenter - Embroidered Digital Commons - stitching together
    of Craft and Code cultures of knowledge sharing and politics.
    Alison Craighead
    Amy Alexander
    Kate Armstrong
    Kate Rich
    Francesca fa Rimini
    Coco Fusco
    Natalie Jeremijenko
    Laurie Anderson
    Mez Breeze
    Kelli Dipple
    Nina Pope and Karen Guthrie

    :)
    R

    On 17/03/2012 10:14, Annie Abrahams wrote:

    of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show

    I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and
    power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but
    noticed form@t didn't include "female" formats and made me think
    about if these exist
    yes they must, they do
    *Can we find good examples*?

    And why they are omitted?
    does form@t mean control?
    is the show a formalistic exposure?

    I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu
    de Paume is a women - she  invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I
    know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties
    defending online art.

    Does the institution need a strong male presence to "try to be
    convincing"?
    Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three
    Guineas time of Virginia Woolf

    yours
    Annie
    *Can we find good examples of fem@le Form@ts?*



    On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Myers <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote:
        > no ladies in the show at all can't they format?

        Some are in the "Magic Ring" project, although none are
        mentioned on the
        front page, no. :-/

        - Rob.
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