thank you so much cym! is really nice to read this history l.
> Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:37:44 +0200 > From: Cym Net <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women. > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: > < > capaiqoivkjaqpmifjg5u6qt_kv6ydnupavuugldqolk3c+f...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello Netbehaviour List > > > I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the first > time I post here. > > Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have > noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have forwarded it > to me. > > And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the video > here! > > > The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original > DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that time > to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no external > hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file. All I have is > a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the VHS into the computer > to be able to put the video online. It is still in low resolution, but at > least it is online now for all of you to see and enjoy. > > The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special > project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a professional net > artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense that I am still not able > to make a living from it, but the 42-Video brought me a huge step further > into at least trying to one day making a living from media art... ) > > We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam, Berlin, > Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still very new and > streaming video was still something of the future. We connected together > via IRC, so we could communicate together, and were sending each other > sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the sounds that we received from > each other and were sending sounds back to each other. Somewhat like an > online jam session. On each location we filmed the women on that location > participating in the project. We later used the video material from these > four different locations to make one video out of it. > > Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that time, so > instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations inspired by the > sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was sending these > animations back to the others as part of the online jam session. The > clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons made from old 5.25 > inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and not used any more in > 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the locations in the week before > the jam session. So we are wearing similar outfits in each location. > > We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and filming > everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to Ljubljana, to > create a five-minutes video from the material that we had recorded during > the jam-sessions. > > Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real life. I > met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and Borut for the > first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged to meet there, to > mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued by train to Ljubljana, > which was a pretty long journey. I think the 42-Video was the first time > for me that I created an art work over the internet, with people whom I had > never met before in real life (which was a very special experience for me > at that time!). > > Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many people > understood the video that we had made... I was very excited about the > project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at least not in my > surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the video that we had > produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were more excited :-) > > One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a festival > called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a group of cyber > women, working together via the internet. I came to Graz for a period of 6 > weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought at that time that I would > still be there 10 years later :-) > > Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my website: > > http://cym.net/42/index.php - A website designed in good old > ascii-art > :-) > > > Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video! > > Cym > > > __________________________________________________________________ > CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net - 00 31 6 23 76 43 95 > > 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now: www.cym.net/oscar-in-china > > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM, ruth catlow > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I never heard of 42. > > I think I remember cym but can't remember where from. > > This video is fantastic - nerve racking > > > > Does anyone else know mailinglist 42? > > > > best > > Ruth > > > > > > On 30/07/2012 15:00, Annie Abrahams wrote: > > > > Thanks Marc > > > > Do you know who were concerned, who participated, and if there was a > > folluw up? > > > > yours > > Annie > > > > ps I hope you are spending nice holidays > > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, marc <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> net art video from 1998 by cyber women. > >> > >> Video made by the women art group mailinglist 42 in 1998. > >> > >> The audio and video material for this video was created on four > >> locations simultanously connected together via real audio and irc during > >> two evenings in October 1998. > >> > >> The artists met each other for the first time in real life one month > >> later, when they all came to Ljubljana, Slovenia, to edit the material > >> into this music video. > >> > >> "The sound of planets colliding on dark nights in distant galaxies." > >> > >> Recorded in Amsterdam, Berlin, Graz and Ljubljana. > >> > >> Edited at Ljudmila, Ljubljana in November 1998. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BlxcG_zmc# > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing [email protected]:// > www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20120802/f19096e7/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 09:14:44 -0500 > From: Perry Bard <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women. > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Great to read this history! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Cym Net <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello Netbehaviour List > > > > > > I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the > first time I post here. > > > > Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have > noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have forwarded it > to me. > > > > And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the > video here! > > > > > > The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original > DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that time > to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no external > hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file. All I have is > a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the VHS into the computer > to be able to put the video online. It is still in low resolution, but at > least it is online now for all of you to see and enjoy. > > > > The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special > project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a professional net > artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense that I am still not able > to make a living from it, but the 42-Video brought me a huge step further > into at least trying to one day making a living from media art... ) > > > > We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam, Berlin, > Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still very new and > streaming video was still something of the future. We connected together > via IRC, so we could communicate together, and were sending each other > sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the sounds that we received from > each other and were sending sounds back to each other. Somewhat like an > online jam session. On each location we filmed the women on that location > participating in the project. We later used the video material from these > four different locations to make one video out of it. > > > > Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that time, > so instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations inspired by the > sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was sending these > animations back to the others as part of the online jam session. The > clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons made from old 5.25 > inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and not used any more in > 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the locations in the week before > the jam session. So we are wearing similar outfits in each location. > > > > We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and filming > everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to Ljubljana, to > create a five-minutes video from the material that we had recorded during > the jam-sessions. > > > > Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real life. > I met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and Borut for > the first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged to meet there, > to mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued by train to > Ljubljana, which was a pretty long journey. I think the 42-Video was the > first time for me that I created an art work over the internet, with people > whom I had never met before in real life (which was a very special > experience for me at that time!). > > > > Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many people > understood the video that we had made... I was very excited about the > project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at least not in my > surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the video that we had > produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were more excited :-) > > > > One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a > festival called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a group of > cyber women, working together via the internet. I came to Graz for a period > of 6 weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought at that time that I would > still be there 10 years later :-) > > > > Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my website: > > > > http://cym.net/42/index.php - A website designed in good old > ascii-art :-) > > > > > > Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video! > > > > Cym > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net - 00 31 6 23 76 43 95 > > > > 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now: > www.cym.net/oscar-in-china > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:12 PM, ruth catlow < > [email protected]> wrote: > > I never heard of 42. > > I think I remember cym but can't remember where from. > > This video is fantastic - nerve racking > > > > Does anyone else know mailinglist 42? > > > > best > > Ruth > > > > > > On 30/07/2012 15:00, Annie Abrahams wrote: > >> Thanks Marc > >> > >> Do you know who were concerned, who participated, and if there was a > folluw up? > >> > >> yours > >> Annie > >> > >> ps I hope you are spending nice holidays > >> > >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 2:37 PM, marc <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> net art video from 1998 by cyber women. > >> > >> Video made by the women art group mailinglist 42 in 1998. > >> > >> The audio and video material for this video was created on four > >> locations simultanously connected together via real audio and irc during > >> two evenings in October 1998. > >> > >> The artists met each other for the first time in real life one month > >> later, when they all came to Ljubljana, Slovenia, to edit the material > >> into this music video. > >> > >> "The sound of planets colliding on dark nights in distant galaxies." > >> > >> Recorded in Amsterdam, Berlin, Graz and Ljubljana. > >> > >> Edited at Ljudmila, Ljubljana in November 1998. > >> > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5BlxcG_zmc# > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> NetBehaviour mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > NetBehaviour mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20120802/c04dc5fb/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:18:33 -0400 (EDT) > From: Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] Perfect Plane > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > > > > Perfect Plane > > On the plane of technology > > http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane1.jpg > http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane2.jpg > http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane3.jpg > http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane4.jpg > http://www.alansondheim.org/pplane5.jpg > > Thank you West Jet > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 08:34:46 +0200 > From: "manik" <[email protected]> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] MANIK ALIVE 54 > To: "netbehaviour" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <94C4E3D5EC39438E8ED7BA795C22111E@user> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > ...MANIK ALIVE...MANIK...2012... > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20120803/be8da356/attachment-0001.htm > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: not available > Type: image/jpeg > Size: 87407 bytes > Desc: not available > Url : > http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20120803/be8da356/attachment-0001.jpeg > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:04:40 +0200 > From: helen varley jamieson <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] net art video from 1998 by cyber women. > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > yes, thanks for that, cym. great project :) > > On 2/08/12 4:14 PM, Perry Bard wrote: > > Great to read this history! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > On Aug 2, 2012, at 8:37 AM, Cym Net <[email protected] > > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > >> Hello Netbehaviour List > >> > >> > >> I am subscribed to this list for a long time already, but this is the > >> first time I post here. > >> > >> Thank you Evelin for forwarding the discussion to me! I wouldn't have > >> noticed it between the many other mails if you wouldn't have > >> forwarded it to me. > >> > >> And thank you Marc and Ruth and Annie for posting and discussing the > >> video here! > >> > >> > >> The video was made by a group of women in 1998. We lost the original > >> DV-tape (Reni should have it somewhere..). It was impossible at that > >> time to save the original digital file on the computer, there were no > >> external hard disks yet at that time big enough to save a video file. > >> All I have is a copy on VHS. In 2009 I finally managed to copy the > >> VHS into the computer to be able to put the video online. It is still > >> in low resolution, but at least it is online now for all of you to > >> see and enjoy. > >> > >> The '42-Video', as we used to call it, has always been a very special > >> project to me, as it marks the beginning of my career as a > >> professional net artist or media artist. (Professional in the sense > >> that I am still not able to make a living from it, but the 42-Video > >> brought me a huge step further into at least trying to one day making > >> a living from media art... ) > >> > >> We made the video on four locations at the same time (Amsterdam, > >> Berlin, Graz, Ljubljana). At that time, in 1998, real audio was still > >> very new and streaming video was still something of the future. We > >> connected together via IRC, so we could communicate together, and > >> were sending each other sounds via real-audio. We were remixing the > >> sounds that we received from each other and were sending sounds back > >> to each other. Somewhat like an online jam session. On each location > >> we filmed the women on that location participating in the project. We > >> later used the video material from these four different locations to > >> make one video out of it. > >> > >> Myself I was very much into 3D and creating 3D-animations at that > >> time, so instead of filming myself I was creating 3D-animations > >> inspired by the sounds and texts that the others were sending. I was > >> sending these animations back to the others as part of the online jam > >> session. The clothes that we were wearing were made by Cloed, aprons > >> made from old 5.25 inch floppy disks (yes, those were already old and > >> not used any more in 1998 :-) ) She sent some aprons to each of the > >> locations in the week before the jam session. So we are wearing > >> similar outfits in each location. > >> > >> We did two evenings with jam sessions via real-audio and IRC and > >> filming everything. One month later we all (almost all of us) came to > >> Ljubljana, to create a five-minutes video from the material that we > >> had recorded during the jam-sessions. > >> > >> Until then I had never met any of the women of this group in real > >> life. I met Sol, Cloed, Kata, Reni and Jogi and later also Margit and > >> Borut for the first time in real life in Ljubljana, when we arranged > >> to meet there, to mix the video. I flew to Vienna and then continued > >> by train to Ljubljana, which was a pretty long journey. I think the > >> 42-Video was the first time for me that I created an art work over > >> the internet, with people whom I had never met before in real life > >> (which was a very special experience for me at that time!). > >> > >> Back home in Amsterdam, where I was living at that time, not many > >> people understood the video that we had made... I was very excited > >> about the project, but there weren't many people in Amsterdam (at > >> least not in my surroundings) who shared my enthousiasm about the > >> video that we had produced. Luckily people in Graz, Austria, were > >> more excited :-) > >> > >> One year later we were invited to Steirischer Herbst in Graz, to a > >> festival called 'net_condition', to present our art group '42', a > >> group of cyber women, working together via the internet. I came to > >> Graz for a period of 6 weeks that summer in 1999. I'd never thought > >> at that time that I would still be there 10 years later :-) > >> > >> Some more info about the projects of our art group '42' is on my > >> website: > >> > >> http://cym.net/42/index.php - A website designed in good old > >> ascii-art :-) > >> > >> > >> Contact me for more info! And enjoy the video! > >> > >> Cym > >> > >> > >> __________________________________________________________________ > >> CYM - recycling net artist - www.cym.net <http://www.cym.net/> - 00 > >> 31 6 23 76 43 95 > >> > >> 'Oscar in China' - A film by Cym - online now: > >> www.cym.net/oscar-in-china <http://www.cym.net/oscar-in-china> > >> > >> > > -- > ____________________________________________________________ > > helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst > [email protected] > http://www.creative-catalyst.com > http://www.make-shift.net > http://www.upstage.org.nz > ____________________________________________________________ > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20120803/cd051195/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > End of NetBehaviour Digest, Vol 1368, Issue 1 > ********************************************* > -- lucía egaña rojas www.lucysombra.org www.blog.lucysombra.org www.minipimer.tv https://n-1.cc/pg/profile/Lucia twitter @luciaegana
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