analog noise is also related to the microwave background radiation of the 
universe...

there are ways to use the feedback for other sorts of disturbances; I used 
broadcast equipment I procured years ago from Film-Video Arts (3/4" stuff) 
to create 'trance' videos; with high magnification, images began to appear 
or so it seemed; these were videos on the edge of collapse, had to use a 
wave-form monitor to ensure they would run at all. looking into the videos 
puts one into a trance, not based on the 7hz or other low-freqency 
patterns -

alan

On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

> Hi list,
>
> On my way towards breakdown (late July), I connected a faulty old
> (reclaimed from abandoned streetware many years ago) TV, a mostly-broken
> VCR, and a broken HDD TV recorder (each of which had two SCART I/O
> ports) in a loop using 3 cables.  I turned it on and went outside before
> pointing the TV out the window with my remote controls and tried to make
> it work.  There was either extremely loud white noise or (on changing
> channels) a black screen and a slight echo from noise to silence in the
> audio.  Maybe some high pass filters / dc blockers / amplification could
> fix it to make something more interesting and evolving.  South East
> London electronics wizards please get in touch and maybe a proper
> version 2 can be collaboratively constructed.
>
> Sadly I didn't document it, but there were at least 3 witnesses to the
> project / performance / installation / happening / thing.
>
> Was also thinking of finding an oldschool GenLock for my Amiga A500+, to
> overlay graphics into the feedback loop and maybe make it more manipulable.
>
> Then I unfurled 500m of twine from my window down past the train station
> towards the park (unfortunately it didn't quite reach, it must be 600m
> to the park from my flat..) as a breadcrumb trail to guide potential
> visitors (I had one bicyclist ask what was going on but he seemed to be
> scared off by the noise pretty quick).  When I returned from meditation
> in the park the twine had been rearranged, more taut in some places,
> looser in others, with little loops and spirals back and forth in
> others.  Mysterious artistic collaborators, origin unknown!
>
> Soon a man from the housing association turned up and asked me to remove
> the twine as it was a "trip hazard" and they didn't want anyone to get
> hurt, so I obeyed.  Almost got the twine caught in a lorry turning a
> corner, which was scary, but I survived.
>
> It got pretty warm too, I think it was wise that I didn't leave on
> longer - the (unlit) candles on top of the TV had melted slightly...
>
> Two months in psychward eventually followed, I'm back to full health
> (better than ever, perhaps), and no harm done (apart from perhaps
> disturbing my neighbours too early of a morning with noise and art in
> public...).
>
>
> Digital versions of feedback processes aren't quite the same, they lack
> the essence of noise and chaos and happenstance, too finite... - there's
> an mp3 out there supposedly retranscoded 666 times, artifacty heavy
> metal music, if nothing else serves as a warning against lossy
> conversion.  I had a copy somewhere, not sure where it is now...
>
>
> On 23/09/12 17:48, Mark Hancock wrote:
>> I loved doing this sort of thing when I got my first video camera. I did a 
>> similar thing with a photocopier that was malfunctioning and an a4 picture 
>> of Kathy Acker from Blitz magazine (circa 1985?) : Scanned in a copy that 
>> came out poor quality and sepia, then put that through again, ripped the 
>> copy of the copy, then layered that over the first and scanned, ripped, 
>> scanned, ad infinitum.
>>
>> I was probably thinking something about cut-ups and her writing at the time. 
>> They made nice pics though that I was quite pleased with.
>>
>> So naturally I completely forgot to save them and threw them out a few 
>> months later. idiot.
>>
>> I love it when technology breaks down and people start playing with it. It's 
>> like the organic breaking through the sleek, hard lines of manufactured 
>> 'perfection.' The dystopian reality of nature always finds a way to carry on 
>> mutating the world to ensure survival, even against the elements that seem 
>> most capable of resisting that mutation (corporate electronics/apple etc).
>>
>> M
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 Sep 2012, at 17:39, marc wrote:
>>
>>> Camera and TV Loop
>>>
>>> As described in Douglas Hofstadter's book 'Godel, Escher, Bach', this is
>>> what happens when you connect your camera to your TV and point the
>>> camera at the screen. The spirals are created by tilting the camera.
>>>
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-gqMTt3IUg#
>
>
> Claude
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