I am in agreement Michael, with most of what you say.

For me the most frightening part is the arrest and possible prosecution of the teenager. A recent trend of people being found guilty of offending some people - this has become almost like thought crime: you think differently to us, therefore you must be punished. It looks like the police either don't know how to apply this frightening law, or are presumably being very subjective in their interpretation.

This one needs to be repealed very quickly.

Simon

On 13 Nov 2012, at 09:07, dave miller wrote:

hi michael
and thanks for your superb response. i agree the whole poppy cenotaph is just a propaganda exercise. i agree with commemorating the dead but this event tries to legitamise modern wars. Its so true what you say about blair, and the irony of his unpunished war criminality versus this petty crime.
dave

On Nov 12, 2012 9:13 PM, "Michael Szpakowski" <[email protected]> wrote: If the British state cares so deeply for those who are killed and maimed in battle, why do we need a charity to raise money for them? If the event is a simple memorial to the fallen why the jingoistic marching bands at the Cenotaph? If "our" soldiers were "protecting" us in Iraq and now in Afghanistan why does this make us more and not less likely to be victims of terrorism? Why do we not commemorate the innocents murdered by "our" forces - the wedding parties, the school children incinerated by unmanned drones; the Iraqis tortured and brutalised by "our boys"? The remembrance event is about one thing only: cementing people to the idea that the might of the British State is somehow "ours". Prior to the rise of a new militarism around the time of the Falklands war remembrance day was becoming a relatively low key thing and perhaps even in decline. It has been deliberately stirred back into life as propaganda in support of the various recent military adventures.

It's outrageous that anyone should be detained or prosecuted for posting an image of a symbol on fire when Blair, who actually colluded in setting fire to a nation, walks free, rich and smug.

I don't know whether the guy who set fire to &/ posted the image of a poppy was an idiot or not. I've no idea why he did it but I have no problem at all with it. I do know that if we don't defend the right to protest it will be taken away from us.

Michael




From: Rob Myers <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Man arrested for image of burning poppy

On 11/12/2012 08:36 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> So what should happen over these kind of cases?

There shouldn't be such cases. Freedom of speech should cover any kind
of idiot burning any kind of symbol.

- Rob.

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