..you're certainly not alone, and the good thing is that it gets as
wild as you want.. lala, lulu, Alan referred me further to Wedekind
where i encountered for the second time today, or forever, the name
Mine-haha/Minnehaha, the second from Jung's Psychology of the
unconscious (both referring to Longfellow's Song of Hiawatha i learn).
Jung writes [my comment]:
"On the return journey Hiawatha stops at the clever
arrow-maker's [The maker of time, the shooter of arrow, zeno], who
possesses a lovely daughter:

" And he named her from the river,
>From the water-fall he named her,
Minnehaha, Laughing Water." [the flying arrow, the laughing water...
our experience of time, pleasure, noise and entropy]

When Hiawatha, in his earliest childhood dreaming,
felt the sounds of water and wind press upon his ears,
he recognized in these sounds of nature the speech of his
mother [the wavefunction, or the mind holding the brain in a
superposition of brain-states using the quanum zeno effect (according
to Stapp]. The murmuring pine trees on the shore of the
great sea, said " Minnewawa." And above the murmur-
ing of the winds and the splashing of the water he found
his earliest childhood dreams once again in a woman,
" Minnehaha," the laughing water [waves, water, libido, considered
energy 'wildly entangled']. And the hero, be-
fore all others, finds in woman the mother, in order to
become a child again, and, finally, to solve the riddle of
immortality. " [This quote is from the chapter "the dual role of the
mother", one might find it easy to see in it then the wave-particle
duality of matter/time -- time as 'laughing water', wave, the initial
entanglement, innocence, and on the other hand 'to solve the riddle of
immortality' which is the collapsing of the wave-function, the resolve
of riddle and entanglement through the quantum zeno effect which
refers back to the paradox of flight of the arrow (of time) which
doesn't move at any moment, and therefore doesn't move at all, and
thus attains immortality. The freezing/crystallizing Jung would call
individualization, sort of the impossible quest of a particle to find
back to the wave he was collapsed from, thrown out from (the
mother-child). And so on, other's might elaborate much better..  Bj]


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:23 PM, simon longo <[email protected]> wrote:
> Cool I though I was the only one having these wild ideas good to know I am
> not the only one...
>
> On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Bjørn Magnhildøen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> that is to say, we might stop time and ageing in systems by monitoring
>> it continuously, thus always collapsing the wave-function - the
>> socalled quantum zeno effect --- as if each repeated 'la'-wave -
>> la-ola-ola, of an undisturbed, wildly entangled and so forth, were...
>> frozen in time -- all resources tending to checking the body though,
>> as if the allseeing superego could prison -- because if there's no
>> natural entity in time one might suppress it at quantum level,
>> iterating lala waves, where measuring is collapsing.
>>
>> On 2/5/13, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > lalala
>> >
>> > http://www.alansondheim.org/tra1.png
>> > http://www.alansondheim.org/tra2.png
>> >
>> > community, lalala. It was always the noie that was disturbing,
>> > call it others lalala. However they'll be sitting in this room
>> > lalala. However they'll be talking about the news lalala.
>> > However it will be tears and crying, beyond those of mourning
>> > birthing lalala, the wall, the rim, disturbance. I cry lalala
>> > into the wilderness! I lie in the wilderness lalala! I cry
>> > lalala! I cry lalala! I couldn't think again, my flesh lalalala
>> > mary graph, her wire lalalala start and stop, cartesian ego
>> > splayed open, body splayed lalala and I cried lalala into the
>> > wilderness! I lay in the wilderness lalala! I cried lalala! I
>> > crid lalala! yongerysiiy nd * my e her * mhsshe' wire lalalala
>> > start and stop, carte i wire lalalala start and stop, carte i
>> > feel always you're in my aa, alw yes lalala it's raining out and
>> > acting up. i will cry lalala into the wilderness! i will lie in
>> > the wilderness lalala! i will cry lalala! i will cry lalala into
>> > the wilderness! couldn't think again for any longer, my flesh
>> > lalalala mary graph, her wire lalalala start and stop, cartesian
>> > ego splayed open, body splayed lalala lala la.
>> >
>> >
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