I'm not an 'us' and 'them' kind of person - just an 'us' type. We're all 
complicit in our mess. If the internet isn't free it isn't just because of 
ICANN or Intel - they are just part of a bigger picture, of which we are all 
part. You can try and paint yourself out of it - but it's a false image you are 
producing and it will fool nobody except those that also think in socially 
dualistic terms. As for freedom - nobody has ever been free, in any sense, and 
nothing is ever free (not even lunch).

Regarding the digital culture vs digital media debate ... we will probably 
never agree and this list isn't the place for a considered discussion of the 
topic. But perhaps, as a final example, I agree with you that the digital isn't 
new. It's been around since the 1950's, when the first digital computers 
generally replaced earlier analog systems. It's possibly been around longer, if 
you employ a very broad definition of the digital. However, digital culture is 
new. It is less than ten years old and has developed as a large part of the 
population has migrated their social, professional and private lives into the 
digital domain, mainly in the form of the internet and, specifically, the web. 
If that's not a culture then I think we mean profoundly different things by 
this term.

best

Simon


On 13 Feb 2013, at 16:26, Eduardo Valle wrote:

> Stallman is using the same marketing bullshit , of all americans enterprises 
> that says and sells the idéia that internet is free and it is not. You cannot 
> think only about the software, You have Telecoms, ICANN DICTATORSHIP , Intel 
> DICTATORSHIP and many others. He is thinking people are stupid ? I totally 
> agree with the term Open source , but Open for Who ? And worst , the people 
> that are for Open source sometimes dont praticse OPEN DATA. 
> About the term Digital Culture it is widespread in World by An english spoken 
> Author and people accept as they accept FREE ???? Software. There is a 
> process of digitalization of various cultures If it is good or bad we can 
> discuss about it , but there is NO Digital Culture. There is digital Media , 
> that is no longer NEW, where artists can work with and make Art with in 
> various forms.
> Globalization did not affects the geopolitical power, i was showing that in 
> Liverpool as Aaron Schwartz did with Elsevier.
> 
> CC: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
> From: si...@littlepig.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:44:15 +0000
> To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] New Digital Culture Unit @ Goldsmiths
> 
> Not sure if all examples of a shift to the digital, across cultures, is 
> something that we have to suffer. I can think of plenty of positive aspects 
> the digital brings us, across cultures. But that's another argument.
> 
> I was just seeking to clarify that there are cultures (many) that can be 
> characterised as digital sufficiently to be termed digital cultures. So long 
> as we realise this is a plural situation I am relaxed with that. I will be 
> attending a conference in Brazil next month on this topic (one of several 
> I've attended in South America) so clearly there are Brazillians who think 
> this is a relevant term. I've attended similar events in probably 50 
> different countries, many in Asia and elsewhere.
> 
> My impression is that this is a global phenomenon - globalisation is closely 
> associated with digital issues. I know many have an automatic reflex to 
> reject globalisation and it is true it is deeply problematic - but the 
> process of globalisation can also be seen as part of a post-colonial dynamic 
> where power is more globally distributed. Whilst that doesn't mean power is 
> evenly distributed (far from it - if it was evenly distributed it wouldn't be 
> power in the sense we understand it) it is better than power being located in 
> a handful of European and north American capital cities.
> 
> best
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> Sent from a mobile device, thus the brevity.
> 
> Simon Biggs
> si...@littlepig.org.uk
> s.bi...@ed.ac.uk
> http://www.littlepig.org.uk
> 
> On 13 Feb 2013, at 13:15, Eduardo Valle <dudava...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I am not saying that there no field relates to the digital media, like 
> software art, net art etc and etc. What i am saying is that a lot of diferent 
> cultures are suffering a process of digitalization and that is totally 
> diferent from a totalitárian single  and not plural term that is  digital 
> culture, worst than that only people that defende a term like f(r)EE. 
> Software , are they Really FREE ? What is to be FREE ? But as i say 
> institutions and acadêmics that Still think that South América is Latin 
> América ... 
> 
> From: si...@littlepig.org.uk
> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:49:09 +0000
> To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] New Digital Culture Unit @ Goldsmiths
> 
> I'd argue that there is a thing called digital culture - this is what defines 
> the boundaries of the digital places, spaces and media we increasingly 
> inhabit in the various aspects of our lives. However, this culture is not 
> singular but plural, with multiple dimensions deriving from different places 
> and demographies. So, computer gaming culture in Korea, hacker culture in the 
> USA, smart phone culture in Tanzania, for example, are all distinct. A really 
> useful writer to read, although working in a very different context, is 
> Olivia Garcia, with her work on pluriliteracy. She articulates how different 
> forms of cultural engagement demand distinct kinds of literacy and capability 
> - often at the same time.
> 
> best
> 
> Simon
> 
> 
> On 13 Feb 2013, at 12:33, Eduardo Valle wrote:
> 
> Digital Culture ?
> Digital is a media not a culture, we are living in a World of various 
> cultures that are suffering a process of digitalization, but having someone 
> in the program that Thinks that South America is Latin América ...
> 
> > Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:20:36 +0000
> > From: marc.garr...@furtherfield.org
> > To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org
> > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] New Digital Culture Unit @ Goldsmiths
> > 
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I would like to agree with Tom,
> > 
> > I must say, we've been working with some of the students from Goldsmiths 
> > which includes the "MA Interactive Media, critical theory and practice" 
> > crew. And, the passion and interest in the projects at Furtherfield, and 
> > their added zest/openness to explore related ideas and contexts, has 
> > been impressive. As well as, their critically engaged approaches towards 
> > networks and social engagement, in art generally.
> > 
> > I'm not a fan of the 'fine art' section of Goldsmiths, and especially 
> > have not forgiven 'Michael Graig Martin' and 'Yucky Hirst bag', for 
> > imposing their Saatchi and Saatchi 'conservative' driven, market 
> > branded, Brit Art on the world.
> > 
> > But, these other people at Goldsmiths, have soul...
> > 
> > chat soon.
> > 
> > marc
> > 
> > > Hi All,
> > > A quick forward which might be of interest...
> > > I can highly recommend "MA Interactive Media, critical theory and
> > > practice" which I completed last year.
> > > Tom
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Harwood <g.harw...@gold.ac.uk>
> > > Date: Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 12:03 PM
> > >
> > > It would be great if you could pass this on to any of your networks.
> > >
> > >
> > > Digital Culture is a place of fundamental change. Understanding,
> > > shaping and leading that change are graduates from two Masters
> > > programmes at the Digital Culture Unit. The problems of computing are
> > > increasingly those of the social and those of meaning, interpretation,
> > > cultural expression, organization that have been core to the humanities
> > > over the last two millennia. At the same time, computing is now central
> > > to the activity of thought and communication and both computing and
> > > humanities find themselves reconstituted, so that one cannot exist
> > > without the other.
> > >
> > > The Digital Culture Unit at the Centre for Culture Studies at
> > > Goldsmiths, University of London brings together researchers who have a
> > > special interest and expertise in digital culture in the broadest sense.
> > > We make software, texts, installations and investigations and edit
> > > journals, make books, art and collaborate with others to take part in
> > > and understand the changes computing is making to all forms of life.
> > > Drawing closely on this research we run two Masters and a PhD programme.
> > >
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/cultural-studies/ccsdigitalcultureunit/
> > >
> > > MA Interactive Media, critical theory and practice.
> > >
> > > The MA Interactive Media offers students the opportunity to equally
> > > develop theory and practice-based research on the information systems
> > > embedded in the technical, cultural, aesthetic, and political structures
> > > of society and how we interact with them.
> > >
> > > Building on the Centre for Cultural Studies research excellence in
> > > software studies, media philosophy and digital arts practices, students
> > > will learn to employ advanced research and practice-based methodologies
> > > to enhance and develop their own skills.
> > >
> > > Student research and experiments focus on new and historical modes of
> > > interaction to develop a critical understanding of technical objects in
> > > the way they are implicated in who we are today.
> > >
> > > The programme will help students prepare for or develop a critical
> > > career in the cultural, creative, educational, or computational sectors.
> > >
> > > Central to the MA is the Centre for Cultural Studies FLOSS (Free Libre
> > > Open Source Software) Media Lab. This is a social hub as well as a place
> > > to study. Students from around the world with different backgrounds and
> > > research interests in software development, design, philosophy, art,
> > > activism, media theory, curating, or programming, share, exchange and
> > > refine skills and specialized knowledge, developing individual and group
> > > projects. As well as attending lectures and seminars, students crucially
> > > spend at least 9 hours a week in the Lab with close supervision in this
> > > technically and critically challenging environment.
> > >
> > > The MA is jointly convened by the leading theorist Luciana Parisi
> > > (author of Contagious Architecture. Computation, Aesthetics and Space,
> > > MIT Press) http://www.gold.ac.uk/cultural-studies/staff/l-parisi/, who
> > > teaches Critical Theory and International artist and Lab Director Graham
> > > Harwood ("http://yoha.co.uk/";
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/cultural-studies/staff/g-harwood/"; who teaches
> > > practice based enquiry. They are joined by theorist Matthew Fuller
> > > (editor of Software Studies, co-author of Evil Media, MIT Press) who
> > > teaches Software Studies
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/cultural-studies/staff/m-fuller/; with special
> > > input from Bernard Stiegler (author of Technics and Time) who teaches
> > > Media Philosophy
> > >
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-interactive-media-critical-theory-practice/
> > >
> > > MA/MSc in Creating Social Media
> > >
> > > This unique theory and practice programme combines computing and
> > > cultural studies to provide students with the practical and critical
> > > skills to shape the future impact of social media. You will analyse
> > > existing ideas, approaches and tools and plan, develop, hack and
> > > implement ground-breaking interventions.
> > >
> > > The MA/MSc is a collaborative theory/practice programme across the
> > > Department of Computing and the Centre for Cultural Studies. Based on
> > > emerging examples, students explore the technological and intellectual
> > > questions coming to prominence with social media and social computing.
> > >
> > > Social media, at its most interesting, develops new forms of connecting,
> > > relating, sharing and competing. Effective and innovative social media
> > > creation, therefore, involves theoretical and practical knowledge of
> > > both software development and social processes. Students learn how to
> > > hack social media, how to conduct digital research, how software tools
> > > enable different forms of social practice, and how social media projects
> > > can be successfully launched.
> > >
> > > The capabilities that students develop are helping to transform media,
> > > government, social campaigns, NGOs, companies and startups. Hackdays,
> > > open innovation and the power of networks are becoming core to the
> > > future of many organisations and this programme equips graduates to
> > > accelerate the impact of social media in their chosen field.
> > >
> > > Teaching staff include the course convenor Dan McQuillan (co-founder of
> > > Social Innovation Camp)
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/computing/staff/d-mcquillan/ and theorist Matthew
> > > Fuller (editor of Software Studies, co-author of Evil Media, MIT Press)
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/cultural-studies/staff/m-fuller/, who are joined
> > > for specific sessions by leading developers, practitioners and thinkers.
> > >
> > > http://www.gold.ac.uk/pg/ma-creating-social-media/
> > >
> > > Contact Centre Manager, Lisa Rabanal l.raba...@gold.ac.uk
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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