Hi Annie, just got online for a bit after a haircut and yet again repairing the roof. We don't have concrete plans for the 24 hour event - if it happens, it will be maybe in the fall. I'll let you know; I like the idea of the waterwheel becoming part of it!

- Alan, it's certainly not radio! Btw, I love Johannes' writing - it's a poetics all its own, beautiful and intelligent. Always. I learn from it.




On Fri, 22 Feb 2013, Annie Abrahams wrote:

dear Johannes and Alan,

just to let you know - I enjoy your conversation - reading it when ever I can, 
going back to a text written a few month's
ago and starting to listen to the eyebeam mp3's today - but they will have to 
wait - they ask all my attention - I can't do
anything else at the same time
this is not radio

warm greetings
Annie

ps
I would love to listen to the hopefully soon upcoming 24 hours event - please 
don't forget to make a lot of fuss about it
Alan
it could be interesting to couple it up with a 24 hour listening event on a 
platform like waterwheel - maybe even organising
a parallel online jam (one stream coming from your live event)...




On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM, Johannes Birringer 
<[email protected]> wrote:


      dear Alan

      oh, not at all, i think it was a small language misunderstanding.
      I used the term "barely" in a temporal sense, reflecting on how and 
whether this
      radio, this netbehavior list, can be used for sustainable conversation, 
and it obviously can, but I find it
      harder.
      For me it felt that you had posted a very interesting and thoughtful 
response to my comment
      in the middle of the night, and even though I was writing back barely 14 
hours later
      and a few times zones apart, it seemed as if our conversation about 
durational
      performance and music, detuning and d?tourning, and collective or 
communal playing duration,
      had already passed/past its time, its due, it was gone, it seemed ages 
ago that we met, we talked, and
      that you regretted the lack of feedback on the "radio",  the network, the 
audiences.

      (It would interest me what others here think about reception, feedback, 
time, reflection and critique, or do we
      often post our stuff
      and hurry on to the next stuff we do, without pausing?)

      Alan you had already moved on to post the "scent of them" text, and your 
comments on the sung lisu.
      Aharon then added a personal detail, regarding Edinburgh,  and that 
interested me ??  the moments when our
      biographies
      come into the picture for a tiny moment, and when you then mentioned your 
sleeplessness, and that
      this Palgrave book (?55, Amazon has it for ? 47) is too expensive, i had 
to reflect for a moment on that
      one too.

      Yes, that book (hardback) is too expensive, and I only have it because i 
am in it and the publisher sent me a
      complimentary copy,
      and after reading your text on dead music, i noted that you are cited 
frequently in some chapters (regarding
      your dead avatars).
      The book goes back to a festival,  "Intimacy: Across Visceral and Digital 
Performance," held in London in 2007,
      at which my company showed a dance work
      and my design collaborator and I conducted a workshop on 
sensing/sensortizing, and after the 2007 festival, the
      curators decided it would be a nice
      idea to do a book. Well, it just came out and so it only took 4 years.

      Now that is a strange time frame, four years, compared to how we post and 
move on here, and that is why i
      enjoyed your reflections
      on other times, your ride across the desert in 1987 after we all left 
Dallas, and i agree with you (and then you
      contradict yourself), the desert is never empty,
      and oil cities (like Texarkana) don't rise out of nothing and descent 
into nothing.  Probably you were
      addressing a sense of history
      and sedimentation, other purposes, within/against a sense of the wilding 
of rich deserts.
      (yes, Baudrillard's speculations are quite poor ideological smoke 
signals; there is no Paris, Texas)

      In my next posting i will try and comment on a musical experience i had 
last night,
      and an instrument i saw in action that I enjoyed a lot, the santur.

      best
      Johannes Birringer





      [Alan schreibt]

      Johannes, I'm glad you mentioned the Texas experience because I've seen
      nothing else like it. I think the cities are around 400 miles apart, and
      the rest is unbelievably emptied. But then I remember reading Baudrillard
      on the emptiness of America and finding myself angry, since he assumed
      that the desert is blank or void, ignoring the fact it's been home to
      Native Americans and wildlife, that it was cultural, responds culturally,
      just as much as 'comforting' cities might. It reminds me also of Herzog's
      notion of the jungle which was also home and inhabited and cultural /
      political, not a brutal or 'seething' nature. My words. Texas is
      disruptive too because of the nature of the cities - I remember Marlis
      Schmidt who was from Midland, an odd oil city rising out of nothing,
      descending into nothing. I wonder if the Sahara is like that.

      I did read Sandy's essay in Chatzichristodoulou's book which I could never
      afford, but Sandy sent me a copy, and Yes!

      So I just wrote John Cayley about seeing him in Providence and the news
      came on about another John Cayley who just got charged for reckless
      truck driving which killed a police officer. Strange.

      Anyway. If I barely replied, I probably did so under a stress medication -
      I've been trying to go to sleep around midnight because of our current
      stress of things, and Azure has to get up at 6:15 to get to work as a
      part-time teaching assistant (there's a hiring freeze for full-tine
      teachers here). So at 4:15 I may not have been all there, I probably woke
      out of a nightmare (today's was about the Vietnam War).

      - Alan,
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