Measurable: + Attention span shortens + Basic comprehension increases + Analysis shallows
I call the machine "normalization" but even that term doesn't mean what it useta. You were so right about Facebook being filled with Aphorisms; the trends are often easier to name than the symptoms. Thank you for that one. The contrary arguments might be: + philosophy simply isn't relevant anymore + philosophy used to encompass all knowledge; these days it has a narrower scope + it's a niche More than anything, I saw your post as a pedagogical challenge. Bz ••• Sent Mobile ••• On Jun 20, 2013, at 8:45 PM, "max d. well" <[email protected]> wrote: > thank you alan... > > i meant to flip the style. > i meant to switch from us generation to young people from today. > why are they still reading/studying > kanthegelmarxderridasartrerussellbadiouzizekpopperwittgensteinjunglacanirigaray? > > do we still engage? > is it the same for them young people as it is for us? > whats the guidance now? > the inspiration? the information? the comprehension? > > what seems to be going on? > what did go on 30 years ago? > just had to forward your thoughts and couldn't let go to share it with you... > > just questions, no answers. > > thank you again alan > max > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 3:00 AM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Thank you as well. Although maybe flip in the style, I'm concerned about >> the falling-away of depth that seems to be going on - but maybe for most >> people, that kind of depth wasn't important in the first place. >> >> - Alan >> >> On Fri, 21 Jun 2013, max d. well wrote: >> >> > >> > dearest odile, >> > >> > today in my mail i found a catalogue of questions of alan sondheim >> > >> > reading made me think of you >> > >> > studying philosophy and sociology >> > trying to find your way your truth your destination >> > posing your questions >> > >> > nothing to add for me at the moment >> > ? prolly talk when we meet again. >> > >> > gr?ssings to leipzig >> > >> > max/xo >> > >> > >> > thx alan >> > >> > >> > >> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> > From: Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> >> > Date: Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 11:00 PM >> > Subject: [NetBehaviour] Do we still engage? >> > To: [email protected] >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Do we still engage? >> > >> > Do we still engage with Sartre? Do we still read Derrida? Do >> > they speak to us? Does Heidegger speak to us? Does Husserl? Is >> > Hegel still critical to our thinking? Does anyone read Sartre? >> > Does anyone think through Derrida? Do we think we've absorbed >> > Badiou? Is Badiou important? Is Shestov? Is philosophy dead or >> > dying? Is thinking philosophically still important? Does anyone >> > read Plotinus? Does St Augustine speak to us? Is Descartes >> > necessary? Have we absorbed Spinoza? Are we the better for >> > Kristeva? Is Butler still relevant? Is Russell? Have we absorbed >> > Wittgenstein? Do we still engage with Reichenbach? Is Latour >> > still important? Have we gone beyond Carnap? Is Peirce relevant? >> > Does anyone read James? Have we buried Marx? Does anyone think >> > through Freud? Is Arendt still necessary? Are we still inspired >> > by Jung? Do we relate to Plato? Is our world Aristotelian? Is >> > Nietzsche still necessary? Has philosophy disappeared? Have >> > people read Thom? Has Mill disappeared? Is Confucius >> > fundamental? Do we still grapple with Hobbes? Is Kant still an >> > inspiration? Are there answers to questions? Do we still learn >> > from Kierkegaard? Is Lacan still read? Does Maimonides speak to >> > us? Have we abandoned Fanon? Does anyone think through Kofman? >> > Is there any reason to consider Hui Shi? Has Zhuangzi turned the >> > world upside down? Does Parmenides offer solace? Does anyone >> > read Goodman any more? Do we still engage with Bachelard? Is >> > Balibar important? Is philosophy important? Do we consider West? >> > Is Ranciere dead? Does Althusser still speak to us? Is the >> > thought of Merleau-Ponty important to anyone? Is there anything >> > to learn anymore from philosophy? Do we still read Trotsky? Is >> > Grene still relevant? Have we absorbed Cassirer? Is philosophy >> > of science science? Is philosophy of science necessary? Do we >> > still read Langer? Is thought important? Is untethered thought >> > necessary? Is philosophy tethered? Are we engaged with de >> > Beauvoir? Do we remember Deleuze? Do we consider Guattari? Do >> > Deleuze and Guattari offer solace? Is there any value in reading >> > Lyotard? Have we forgotten Kripke? Have we ever comprehended >> > Baudrillard? Is there any point to philosophy? Does philosophy >> > worsen us? Is it necessary to think philosophically? Is it >> > relevant to abandon philosophy? Have we taken Lao Tzu to heart? >> > Are we trusting Agamben? Have we forgotten Schopenhauer? Do we >> > still read Schelling critically? Is Heraclitus still inspiring? >> > Can our lives be guided by Pascal? Are we informed by Whitehead? >> > Do we comprehend the depth of any thought? Do we take thought to >> > heart? Do we still engage with Lucretius? Do we still read >> > Irigaray? 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