Related to this discussion:

"Theoretically endowing banal quotidian action with a ‘political’ status was 
prominent in much neo-anarchist theory before web 2.0 but it has, again, been 
even more problematically exacerbated in online activity. The ‘everything is 
political’ mantra is a dangerous one because, while true in itself, its 
discursive use can encourage a paradoxical depoliticization and retreat from 
politics into individual ethics, which actually plays into the hands of power 
and capital."

http://www.3ammagazine.com/3am/debate-is-idiot-distraction-accelerationism-and-the-politics-of-the-internet/

Jack

On Aug 13, 2013, at 7:20 AM, James Morris <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Antye,
> 
> Thanks for reply. I'm not necessarily wanting to unsubscribe. Signing a
> petition is not a problem most of the time but sometimes it seems to be
> put in simplistic black and white terms when we all know things are
> never that simple. I don't feel comfortable signing against something
> when I'm not at all well informed about it.
> 
> Then there's this kind of thing:
> 
> "We all knew that Ryanair is an unpleasant way to fly, with lousy
> customer service and rip-off hidden charges. But, in a shocking survey,
> Ryanair’s pilots are raising serious concerns about the safety of
> Ryanair flights, potentially putting passengers lives at risk."
> 
> Which comes across like something out the tabloids. It's the kind of
> thing which causes me to treat them as if annoying advertisements.
> 
> Oh well. Not everyone is like me however ;-)
> 
> Of course as you point out they do do worthwhile activism and I should
> probably look past these relatively minor criticisms.
> 
> James.
> 
> 
> 
> On 13/08/13 Antye Greie-Ripatti <[email protected]> wrote:
>> great to look into this… quick for James: To unsubscribe from Avaaz
>> emails, send a blank email to [email protected] or click here.
>> 
>> Aavaz campaings i come across are important, seem correctly
>> communicated, I didn't see the one you mention. I think these guys
>> trying it one way… american way… not sure… ? I mean they just got
>> really hurt re Aaron Schwartz (many peole of them are friends with, as
>> I understand ? sumofus.org for instance)
>> 
>> I would like to talk about avaaz.org
>> 
>> I would be interested to hear if anybody has experince running an
>> Avaaz campaign ?
>> 
>> I am thinking to run one against the nuclear power plant plans up
>> north Finland in the middle of nowhere.
>> 
>> Any recommendations how to organize a signature campaign ?
>> 
>> And yes all that graphic design and interfaces and cloud based
>> services make look everything look like promotion, I just felt the
>> same when we were making a blog with wordpress for our activist camp,
>> all looked like promotion. Terrible. its an important question.
>> 
>> (http://casepyhajoki.info/?lang=en)
>> 
>> best
>> antye
>> 
>> On Aug 13, 2013, at 12:05 PM, James Morris <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Avaaz.org, SumOfUs.org, Change.org
>>> 
>>> These organizations are increasingly annoying me. Avaaz for instance,
>>> their latest and greatest call to action, is "Huge threat to Avaaz"
>>> caused by gmail apparently not prioritizing their emails... oh no,
>>> hang on, my appologies, gmail *could* de-prioritize their emails. So
>>> say "experts". It's a conspiracy. Well maybe if you didn't send me
>>> so many emails on such earth shattering crimes against humanity
>>> (such as this one) I might actually be more bothered about your
>>> emails. They're supposedly a "people powered community", but where
>>> can I tell them to back off? I'm advised to "REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE"
>>> to send a signal to gmail. How about I send a signal to you? By
>>> ignoring you? What a signal that will be. If you act like
>>> promotions, sound like promotions, and read like promotions... I'm
>>> too impatient to wait for gmail to de-prioritize you, I've done it
>>> myself.
>>> 
>>> But now I look like a privileged ignorant shit because is this the
>>> worst I have to moan about? Irritating emails as opposed to state
>>> violence and abuse?
>>> 
>>> Is it too much to wish they'd not use hysterical language, block
>>> capitals, emotional appeals, and other tricks and tactics? I'm sure I
>>> can't be the only one who gets irritated by this?
>>> 
>>> Oh but is that the worst I can complain about, irritation while
>>> splashing around in my irrigation?
>>> 
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