Hi Ana,

I have been thinking about this a lot today,

The article itself on emprica and the hacking was interesting. But I'm not sure who this really serves.

We live in strange, horrible & difficult neo-liberal times - and if anything happens that brings about possible forms of emancipation beyond the branding of the more highly marketed, mainstream art culture dominating this world, I'm happy with that - the more the merrier.

I do not know how it all went at the Barbican with Rhizome on the day. I hope it all went well :-)

If we deconstruct too much what other individuals & groups are doing without looking at the bigger picture, we are in danger of being oppositional with the wrong things for the wrong reasons. And creating the conditions of what the left (in the UK) used to do a lot, which was pull each other down and lose sight of the greater issues that they could collaborate on, and collectively critique.

I may have misgivings regarding Rhizome's past antics with its relationship with its community in the early days, but I actually like their current articles & not everyone should be the same as each other anyway.

Furtherfield also gets funding from the Arts Council and we are trying to find other avenues of income to survive. I'm not going to have a go at them, when we have been supported by them to do all the great stuff we do.

Yes, the Arts Council did cut the arts, and it was sad to see groups like Mute, Access Space & many others lose their funding - which I am still happy about to this day. However, the motives behind these cuts were imposed by the current libcondem government who through their shock and awe strategy of blaming the people for the bankers crisis, decided to hurt others with austerity cuts which is shameful, of course.

I would hate to be put in the position to decideing these things. sometimes, we can view things too simply and react too quickly.

And I don't mean you Ana, I mean 'myself' & others.

wishing you well.

marc
I understand the principes of the discussion but I thought we were now beyond this kind of discussion. I worked as a freelance consultant for the European Community and the funds were tailored for projects needing at leat three countries to apply. There were a djungle of small enterprises connecting Bulgarian museums with Spanish artists and Swedish musicians, the most of the applications were bogus and didn't have another effect than giving them the conditions to apply. But they were not real networks and their cooperation ended when the project money was divided between them. I feel we have created a bureaucracy managing subventions and deciding which groups are worth to support or not, but who watches the watchers?
Qui custodiam custodians?

Ana


On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:40 PM, marc garrett <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Hi Ana,

    Also, the money was from a UK budget & there are lots of smaller
    groups in the UK need of support who are not as big as the
    Barbican & Rhizome.

    The other question is, did it create possibilities for less known
    individuals & groups to be seen & supported or did merely make
    stronger those who are already well heeled?

    wishing you well.

    marc
    I dont understand the discussion, digital art and technologies
    are breaking boundaries and showing they can make bridges and
    innovative networks. Why should not Rhizome be able to apply for
    EU-support? I am  against all support based on national or
    regional bases.
    Ana


    On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 1:08 PM, netbehaviour
    <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        The strange tale of Rhizome and its Arts Council funding

        "Rhizome's Seven on Seven event took place last weekend at
        the Barbican
        in London. Bringing artists and technologists together, it
        was the first
        event on British soil for the digital arts organisation and was
        sponsored by a number of organisations including Wieden +
        Kennedy.

        Why and how Rhizome required Arts Council funding for the event,
        however, was opened up in a series of supposedly leaked
        emails, released
        over the weekend.

        A Twitter account was set up called @jiggawebz93 by a person
        who remains
        anonymous, and the account has since been suspended. The
        account appears
        to have been created to leak information about Rhizome's
        application to
        Arts Council England (ACE), with the account owner claiming
        to have
        hacked into Rhizome's email and web CMS."

        Here is the link to the rest of the article on the matter.
        
http://www.imperica.com/en/news/the-strange-tale-of-rhizome-and-its-arts-council-funding

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