Hello All,

WARNING: rambling stream of consciousness may contain nutritious nuggets.

There's been a lot of loose talk about "digital ownership" recently. I just want it on the record:

There's only one category of digital data that can be owned: unencrypted data or source code that can be compiled to run on a variety of platforms. Even this must not be dependent on processing via applications programs or remote processing controlled by a third party.

These must be sufficiently well-documented that the "owner" can understand and intervene. By their nature, digital patterns that are subject to ownership are able to be conveniently copied, modified, transmitted and combined.

Any other form of claimed digital ownership - examples: "this is YOUR copy of Windows", "this is YOUR Twitter profile", "this is YOUR iPhone", or even, one fears, "This is YOUR bank balance" are not genuine ownership - they're a form of conditional lease - and you have to be aware that a third party can deny you or others, access to or use of what you thought was your digital property.

So does it follow that "digital art" which is NOT free (as in "at liberty") in this manner is NOT "digital" in any meaningful sense? Sure, it happens to be manifested in the datasphere - but that doesn't make it digital in a way that interests me.

This brings me on to wonder whether this sense of "digital" and the conventional sense of "art" are inherently non-compatible. Something can't be truly digital if it isn't free (as in: "at liberty"), and it can't be conventional art unless it isn't free (as in "for money").

It seems to me that many "free digital practices" start to fall into the same sphere as graffiti (now subject to redefinition as "street art").

Can we say that, essentially, what's going on is this?

1. Graffiti is cool and free. (As in: "gratis" and "uncurated".)
2. Digital art is cool and free. (as in: "open" and "distributed".)
3. The conventional art world wants to be cool and digital.... and non-free. (As in "curated", "controlled", "profitable".)

And another (related) thing:

aharon - "come do some work here while we get cred and you, err, maybe a thanks!"?

Absolutely! This sort of proposition is becoming more and more prevalent. This is why at Access Space we're increasingly interested in how we can support artists, hackers and makers to earn real cash money from their activities.

As a space our budgets are stretched to the point of non-existence - we simply can't afford to commission artists, hackers and makers - but we can point them in the direction of monetising some aspect of their practice. And unlike many other spaces, ALL of our core team have run, are running their own enterprises (both cooperatives and conventional businesses) "on the side".

I'm starting to see "enterprise incubator" as the only genuinely empowering deal to accompany calls to participate in hack days or other spaces. Note, incidentally, that I don't advocate for profit activity as the sole axis of artists' creativity. I believe that artists only need monetise "some aspect" of their practice in order to make it sustainable. I'm still gung-ho for the open, sharing gift economy of the arts - just not at the expense of artists, hackers and makers living in penury.

All the best,

James
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On 03/06/14 00:39, mez breeze wrote:
"You never know how much to ask for. Discussions about money are taboo because we pretend that passion and creativity alone should pay the bills. Some of the best events have "no budget", and sometimes only the worst events can make a career as an artist look painfully sustainable..." - http://www.whopaysartists.com/


On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:35 AM, dave miller <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    "to create new work and to share
    free to
    audiences anywhere in the world."

    Maybe the most original idea would be digital art that isn't free.


    On 2 June 2014 19:01, ahanon <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Hiyas,

        Suddenly came across the Invite bellow.. Its at the Tate
        Modern's turbine
        hall.. Anyone here involved? Is this something to do with a
        tilt by Tate
        towards some digital linked art?

        Also, perhaps more interestingly, I bumped recently into a few
        outfits
        that seem to offer spaces for innovative stuff - does it sound
        a bit like
        a rephrase of "come do some work here while we get cred and
        you, err,
        maybe a thanks!"? -
        or is it a case of a bit over sensitive reading?

        Cheers!
        aharon
        xx

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