Oh -I don't differ with you there. I'm not in favour of complexity for the sake
of it, far from it.
I'm not sure that applets are any more intrinsically complex than the html
& images you yourself have used to such striking effect. I'm just sad to see
what appears to me a crepping ( and not so creeping ) corporatism with
the side effect of wrecking expressive possibilities...
cheers
michael
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From: Joel Weishaus <[email protected]>
To: Michael Szpakowski <[email protected]>; Netbehaviour
<[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] big fuck-off blue grid #2
As I cut my artistic teeth on a typewriter, that simple tool that produced so
much great and abiding literature, as did the quill before it, perhaps because
of this, since I began using computers, around 1991, my approach has been to
use the simplest tools to make the most complex art.
-Joel
On 7/28/2014 12:43 PM, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
HI Joel
>yes - this seems to be behind the draconian new settings which effectively
>mean that one can no longer realistically display applets within a web page.
>It's a great pity because it means quite a lot of pioneering art on the net
>will no longer be accessible and the lovely work flow that was possible with
>the Processing language -created especially for artists - whereby one exported
>to a applet which could then be embedded in a web page for all to see will
>vanish..So the rather nice little 200 character java pieces from the Rhizome
>project goes too..
>
>Of course I'm not in favour of technologies that carry risks for innocent
>users andI'm not an expert but I suspect it would be perfectly possible to
>make applets secure, it's just not a priority for those whose interest in the
>net is business - why should a few quirky artists matter? A little voice says
>we had twenty years of relatively non-corporate fun and everything is now
>closing off...
>
>( and again I could be wrong but it feels like HTML 5 and the demise of
>plug-ins might make the world safer for business but it'll be less interesting
>for artists...)Maybe I'm wrong and someone with more background than me can
>reassure me...
>I have gone with the flow and created standalone applications of the piece in
>question but the great thing about the net and net art was always its
>immediacy -the fact one didn't *have* to download and run stuff on one's own
>computer...
>cheers
>michael
>
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>
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>________________________________
> From: Joel Weishaus <[email protected]>
>To: michael szpakowski <[email protected]>; Netbehaviour
><[email protected]>
>Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 7:51 PM
>Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] big fuck-off blue grid #2
>
>
>Hi Michael;
>
>I once got a virus via a java plug-in that brought down my
whole hard drive.
>It was years ago, but I haven't installed java since.
Perhaps Sun now
>has better security?
>
>Best,
>Joel
>
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>On 7/26/2014 2:25 PM, michael szpakowski wrote:
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/14751445932/
>>
>> this painting is a companion piece to a piece I
made for the Rhizome 200 character Processing
competition some years back. That exists as an applet
here ( though you might have to tweak your security
settings to see it as apparently applets are history)
>>
>> http://www.openprocessing.org/sketch/4389
>>
>> I also uploaded applcation versions for windows,
mac and linux here:
>>
>> http://www.michaelszpakowski.org/bfobg/
>>
>> I thought I was making a little joke when I made
it. When I looked at it again it surprised me how much I
actually like it. ( I like the painting too & I like
the idea of them both exisitng)
>> cheers
>> michael
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