I LOVE YOUR POINT ALAN 2015-03-07 18:42 GMT+01:00 Alan Sondheim <sondh...@panix.com>:
> > > Being alarmist, I'm not sure what the point of categorization is here? > I think one of the main issues in general this month, is that of > categorization - in fact are "netartizens" a class? I'd question all these > categories, which also is indicated by the names cross-pollenating your > categories. > > - Alan > > On Sat, 7 Mar 2015, Patrick Lichty wrote: > > >> I need to get out of the extremist categories! >> >> >> >> From: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org >> [mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] On Behalf Of Randall >> Packer >> Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2015 8:34 AM >> To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity >> Subject: [NetBehaviour] A Catalogue of Net Behaviours >> >> >> >> What an extraordinary chorus of voices we have here on the NetBehaviours >> List! As a composer, I am interested in how all the parts harmonize >> together >> polyphonically, rub up against each other contrapuntally, provide a sense >> of >> direction and perspective as the lines & melodies of our utterances >> collectively play out. >> >> >> >> So here is a first pass at some categorical distinctions to provide us >> with >> a ?social taxonomy? of net behaviourism: (I welcome all revisions & >> additions!) >> >> >> >> Enjoy, Randall >> >> >> >> The Alarmists >> >> @BishopZ >>>>> The Internet of Things will inevitably consolidate >> corporate >> power over our personal liberty. >> >> @Alan >>>> The digital, I think, is unbearably fragile; not only is >> privacy >> lost, but we are not prepared, and can't prepare, for the attacks and >> corrosion to come. >> >> @Patrick >>>> I see a more profound short-term sense of (pessimism) in the >> youth in my regions of interaction. >> >> @Dave >>>> The new breed of technologies might make it more obvious that >> government is entirely obsolete. >> >> @Rob >>>>>>> The Cultural Smog Of The Internet? a paralysing weight rather >> than an inspiring force. >> >> @Mez >>>>> Whatever the magnitude/form, online dialogues appear to be >> flooded with antagonistic commentary. >> >> >> >> The Cynics >> >> @Alan >>>>> Do you honestly believe, with all the >> hacking/corrosion/cyberwarfare going on, that regulations will make the >> slightest bit of difference? >> >> @Edward >>>> But don't hope for too much. They guys with the money hold >> all >> the good cards. >> >> @Isabel >>>>> It's worth being an artist for all sorts of reasons, but not >> particularly for social change. >> >> @Simon >>>> jumping on the digital bandwagon seems pointless. >> >> @Karl >>>> there is a word for actor and audience in the social media >> realm: >> prosumer! >> >> @Ruth >>>>> From the perspective of the platform providers, the purpose of >> the users actions and interactions is to squirt lucrative data. >> >> @James >>>> the lines (of communication) are already open, we're just >> sending information back and forth along them >> >> >> >> The Realists >> >> @Ruth >>>> Netartizen #tip3 Social media platforms such as Twitter, >> Facebook, Tumblr are not public >> >> @Johannes >>>>>>>>> "(I) find the idea of artizen nation objectionable. >> >> @Paul >>>> We all think we're creating important and relevant work but if >> the future doesn't come up with a way to extract and preserve it, then it >> probably didn't mean that much to them. >> >> @Marc >>>> What future artists need to know is that they can make their >> own >> contexts beyond the given structures, shoved down their metaphorical >> gullets >> >> @Edward >>>> I'm not sure I feel like a citizen of the net. >> >> @Isabel >>>> there may be some degree of privilege involved in the >> possibility of being/contributing as a Netartizen/Netartisan. >> >> >> >> The Apocalyptic >> >> @Kath >>>> if there is some pulse in the future which wipes all the >> technology we'll be left with a gap from our digital/online years. let's >> hope the libraries survive. >> >> @Patrick >>>>> I feel that social media and the rise of infopower like the >> Arab Spring and ISIS, big data, stacks and Baynesian algorithms typify our >> time. >> >> @Alan >>>> Who will be physical when the land is scorched? And perhaps >> more >> to the point, what are we, as NetArtizens doing/writing/ about it? >> >> >> >> The Hopeful >> >> @David >>>> Perhaps acting out of ignorance (is) an opportunity to create >> something that is truly new. >> >> @Rob >>>> Claiming privatised (network) space for the public that is >> (supposedly economically) exploited to give it its value, and doing so >> under >> the banner of art, is a political strategy (for those of us who like >> political strategies) that has the potential to wrong-foot affective >> capital's enclosures. >> >> @Rob >>> Let's make a net we want to be citizens of, for a while. >> >> @Helen >>>> I have long hunted for a good word for this - for audiences >> that are participating in a really creative way in a work - & i don't just >> mean the "interactivity" of pressing a button or something like that. i >> mean >> co-authoring in a way that they can insert their own creativity & >> alter/influence the work. >> >> @Randall >>> The modern day database, content management system, and >> social >> media offer new ways to fully integrate the artistic process into a >> dynamically-shared, distributed network. >> >> @Ruth >>>> NetArtizen #tip1: initiate and participate in equal measure. >> >> >> >> The Poets >> >> @Bill >>>> would be nice to have MANIC responses >> >> @Ruth >>>> NetArtizen #tip2 There is no one We >> >> @Mez >>>>> N.Et.A[l]rtizen #[s]tip[ewe.lation]3: >> S[m]o[dalities+fun]c[t]i[ons_]al[ways]media[ate]platform[at]s. >> >> @Alan >>>>> cultural heritage >> = 0000000067141066147020145071157060440063556066145063040 >> >> @Dark >>>> 404 FILE NOT FOUND I am still alive >> >> >> >> The Dreamers >> >> @Gil >>>>> I find out more about the world we live in from netbehaviour >> than >> from anywhere else. >> >> @Randall >>> Let?s conceptualize an approach to networked systems that can >> be expressed with any social media platform we may invent or even dream >> of. >> >> @BishopZ >>>> I had a dream one time of teams of artists paratrooping into >> troubled areas - delivering theatrical re-interpretations of local >> mythology >> - explaining in local vernacular the torment that locals faced. >> >> >> >> >> >> > == > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 > music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tc.txt > == > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > --
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