[sirrom@Scrapyard ~/Projects/asclay]$ ./asclay ~/ms.txt file path: '/home/sirrom/ms.txt' file size: '1964' ##################################################### ##+-----------------------------------------------+## ##|Hi Randall, everyoneI think in collabs it's|## ##|horses for courses. In a large scale funded|## ##|piece or anything with large numbers of|## ##|participants or where a particular kind of|## ##|output or range of outputs is aimed for then of|## ##|course planning and structure are important.|## ##|Having said that I' ve done those kinds of|## ##|collabs where the structure has been that|## ##|everyone has a part to play to make and *|## ##|anything* they do for that section is|## ##|sacrosanct - no-one has the duty or right to|## ##|criticise or call them to account. A model for|## ##|that mgiht be the Japanese practice of Renga or|## ##|" linked verse" where each participant|## ##|completely controls their input within the|## ##|parameters of the verse form. |## ##|But as for something on a list like this then I|## ##|'d want to say - no rules, no structure as|## ##|playful as you like as serious as you like,|## ##|remix, don't remix. Work together, spar, work|## ##|together *and* spar. . whatever.. . And that' s|## ##|how I recall the previous DIWOs in terms of|## ##|work being made...It also characterises much of|## ##|my experience of lists from about 2000 onwards,|## ##|things like early Rhizome & webartery.... Lots|## ##|of performative making and remixing.... And to|## ##|my dismay it doesn't seem to be happening here|## ##|to anything like the extent I' d thought it|## ##|might. And I wonder why. Someone long of this|## ##|list wrote me offlist the other day to say they|## ##|were so busy hustling for paid work it was|## ##|difficult to focus on anything else ( and by|## ##|extension I wonder whether the established|## ##|artists on this list are just very preoccupied|## ##|with their own particular projects or just too|## ##|plain busy - the crash has really hit since the|## ##|last of these kind of projects and I wonder|## ##|whether it has taken a toll on our psyches as|## ##|well as our pockets and living standards ). I|## ##|also wonder, whether it might be connected|## ##|with the growing hegemony of web 2.0 , maybe a|## ##|kind of cop in the head effect even for those|## ##|who might be intellectually critical of it. I|## ##|don' t know. I' m baffled and intrigued.|## ##|cheersmichael |## Segmentation fault (core dumped) [sirrom@Scrapyard ~/Projects/asclay]$ _______________________________________________ NetBehaviour mailing list [email protected] http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
