You all bring up some great points. It has taken some time for me to think thru them. I really appreciate everyones responses, and I really like the perpendicular dimensions suggested by "savage shapeshifting" - the biological and virtual, performance and archive, mutilation and desecration.
There is no research that shows that a mind would be such, without a body. Consciousness is highly defined by personality which depends on identity derived from our bodies: their movement, adornments, eccentricities. While I agree that to 'fire and forget' the body would be an extravagant move, discursive to civil rights, a 'spit in the eye' to anyone with heliocentric or anthropomorphic sensibilities - Yet I do find it hard to believe that the desire machines, driven by autonomous social viruses like capitalism, wont drive humans, particularly those in crisis, to do 'what must be done'. I've come to find metaphors of people becoming asleep or as sheep, to be 'out of date' - rather people are becoming more like disembodied oxen - our physical world littered with 'drone bodies' the bodies left behind by the pilots of drones. To phrase it in another dimension, our ability to record our experiences, with or without our permission or intention, continues to out-paced our ability to search, isolate, curate, or understand the 'big data' we hold in our 'hands'. The internet archive and the eventual 'internet of things archive' are both far deeper than even quantum computers could reach. Not only will our secrets be buried there, so too all the secrets of all the recorded generations. Any thoughts appreciated, Bz On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 3:02 PM, Alan Sondheim <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We're having a lot of discussion here; we have to archive/document our > performance/s at Interrupt in and out of the Cave, and I find that close to > an impossibility; I turned over all the materials I shot, which are about 8 > gigabytes, and they, the director, want it narrowed down, understandably, > but I'm not sure how to narrow down a residency which was in the form of a > continuous opera in real and virtual spaces. I must comply or nothing, I'll > pick out a random video clip, random soundpiece, random image or two and try > to tie things together. > > As far as the body is concerned, I keep going back precistely to Rwanda (a > teacher/playwright at Brown has taken students every year to Rwanda to > record, witness, in fact) and other bodies, and what a luxury it must be, to > think of abandoning the body! Certainly this isn't true, for example, for > prisons in the U.S. and the majority of people here and elsewhere suffer > from hunger, violence, etc. So I see the issue as one paralleling cryogenics > or some such - sooner or later the rich will think they live forever, have > access to all knowledge, public and private, incredible life extensions and > prostheses; and they certainly won't live in the West Side of Providence! > It's obscene to me; on G+ I am getting even more the latest new tech ads, > passing as significant advances in human civilization and thought. > > I'm not a curmudgeon by the way, I've just witnessed far too much suffering > in the world. > > I enumerated objects only in relation to the .5m files mentioned; generally > I don't think of things that way, but as blocks of thought in a way, periods > to pass through. > > And Bishop, do any of us intend to keep our bodies? What will we do with > them after we're dead? > > Room for a BBC special! > > - Alan > > > > == > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 718-813-3285 > music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/tc.txt > == > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- ________________________________________________________________ ================================================================ =--------------------------------------------------------=-===-=-=-====-- +_+~_=_~--+__+=-^=-+_+_=^-+__+-=+_+~__=__~-_-____-=++=_--^-===-=-==-=-=-- =--------------------------------------------------------=-===-=-=-====-- http://bishopZ.com _______________________________________________________________________ "` `""- '`'`"` "`"'` `'``"" `'""`'' ''""`" `'''"` `"``'" `"""`" `'`' `' ..,` "".."' 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