that's the one! i think the teatowel was produced by CND (can't find that on the web tho ... )
On 17/11/15 1:45 59PM, dave miller wrote: > I agree - brilliant quote - I think this is it: > > http://izquotes.com/quote/66959 > > On 17 November 2015 at 12:40, Ana Valdés <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Haha such a great motto! A friend I have said once looking at one > derelict school: > "We are the first civilization in the world who keep our money in > palaces and our children in shacks". > Ana > > Skickat från min iPhone > > 17 nov 2015 kl. 18:04 skrev helen varley jamieson > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: > >> yes it is completely twisted; if half that amount was invested in >> things that actually helped people have better lives, instead of >> killing them, it would make such a big positive difference. >> >> my grandmother had a teatowel on her wall (from the 1970s) that >> read something like "it will be a great day when schools have all >> the money they need and the air force has a cake stall to raise >> money for a new plane" ... sadly that day is still a long long >> way off :( >> >> On 17/11/15 12:32 57PM, Ana Valdés wrote: >>> I don't believe that sadly (a lack of resources of course) but I >>> am going to write some texts in English Swedish and Spanish the >>> languages I know. >>> Btw it's funny because something we discussed yesterday was the >>> horrible expansion of NATO and the pledge of all alliance >>> members to earmark two pro cent of the countries budget for >>> military expenses 7 trillion dollars going to drones to >>> satellite surveillance to borders control to fences to weapons. >>> Only the joint manoeuvres NATO countries did recently at the >>> Mediterranean costed 400 million dollars. >>> Imagine that money invested in civilian infrastructure in Africa >>> or India in schools food or training for young ppl. >>> Something who struck me today when I was writing about this >>> meeting was the double standards we have to judge things: how >>> many ppl has been killed randomly by drones attendants to >>> weddings in Yemen and Pakistan recently the hospital where >>> Medecins sans frontieres was working etc etcetera >>> But we mourn the Paris victims killed as randomly... >>> I guess that's the wrecked logic of ISIS they kill us as >>> collateral damage we kill them as randomly... >>> Ana >>> >>> Skickat från min iPhone >>> >>> 17 nov 2015 kl. 15:07 skrev Gretta Louw >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>> >>>> Thanks so much for the update Ana, sounds like such an >>>> important event. Is there going to be any video documentation >>>> of the meeting released, do you know? Or other written >>>> documentation? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 16 Nov 2015, at 19:19, Ana Valdés <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Today we had a long hearing with women from Iraq Afghanistan >>>>> Palestine India Sri Lanka Armenia and many other countries. >>>>> Congo was specially strong since we are all a bit complice in >>>>> their wars they are the world first provider of coltan and >>>>> tantalum minerals needed to make drones and computers and >>>>> mobile phones. >>>>> Two English women Sue Finch and Liz Khan, members of women in >>>>> black UK and active against NATO delivered a powerful speech >>>>> about NATO selling itself as the saviour of the civilized world. >>>>> Write more tomorrow nice to share with you >>>>> Ana >>>>> They had very powerful statements about rape as wartool >>>>> displaced ppl in millions >>>>> >>>>> Den 16 nov 2015 17:18 skrev "helen varley jamieson" >>>>> <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>> >>>>> ana, if you have time it would be great to hear how the >>>>> women in black encounter goes. great that you are able to >>>>> attend :) >>>>> >>>>> On 15/11/15 5:25 50AM, Ana Valdés wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> The encounter starts today check www.womeninblack.org >>>>>> <http://www.womeninblack.org/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Den 15 nov 2015 08:06 skrev "AGF poemproducer" >>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>> >>>>>> Ana, this sounds so very good! >>>>>> happy to read this! do u have a link, more info? >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 13 Nov 2015, at 23:06, Ana Valdés >>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Johannes and all it feels almost eery and weird >>>>>>> read your message in the lobby of Dubai airport on >>>>>>> my way to Bangalore in India where I am going to >>>>>>> participate in a gathering of Women in Black an >>>>>>> international network of women committed to peace >>>>>>> and dialogue and against all kind of war and >>>>>>> occupation. >>>>>>> We denounced the invasion of Irak, Libia and Irak as >>>>>>> illegal as much we denounced Saddam Husseins >>>>>>> annexion of Kuwait and the war between Iran and >>>>>>> Irak. We are going to be around 100 women from >>>>>>> Cynthia Cocknurn old timer activist in Greenham >>>>>>> Common and professor in peace and conflict to >>>>>>> Rebecca Jonsson one of the most outspoken critics of >>>>>>> Natos expansion. >>>>>>> We are going to have Israeli women fighting the >>>>>>> occupation and Palestine fighting their own male >>>>>>> models we are going to have Armenian women >>>>>>> protesting the war in Nagorno Karabaj and Tjetenien >>>>>>> mothers of soldiers. >>>>>>> >From Colombia and Mexico and Argentina we are going >>>>>>> to connect with women searching their missing >>>>>>> relatives mostly courtesy of the US supported right >>>>>>> wing militia. >>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>> Ana >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Den 13 nov 2015 18:21 skrev "Johannes Birringer" >>>>>>> <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>>: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of you probably remember that last winter >>>>>>> Alan Sondheim and I moderated an online >>>>>>> discussion on ISIS and terror & performance, >>>>>>> (empyre list), and some of it may have spilled >>>>>>> over here or you were of course aware of the >>>>>>> worsening of the situation in Syria and Iraq. >>>>>>> The discussion, I think, also of course also hit >>>>>>> closer to home when we ponder what terror means >>>>>>> to us, or how we think it and what our >>>>>>> histories and political affiliations or stands >>>>>>> are, or have been. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember after the debate last November, Alan >>>>>>> and I tried to find a publisher to see whether >>>>>>> the raw, emotional, intense yet diversely >>>>>>> positioned and often poetic articulations of the >>>>>>> participants >>>>>>> could be published, but we had no luck. Earlier >>>>>>> this year I tried to write again about terror, >>>>>>> ISIS, masks, and also confront what may be my >>>>>>> own phantasms or prejudices towards militant >>>>>>> Islam and also towards >>>>>>> Western states and their necropolitics, and I >>>>>>> grappled to understand a little bit better what >>>>>>> state formation might mean for those fighting on >>>>>>> the ground in the middle east. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Driving on the motorway today, listening to >>>>>>> BBC2, i was baffled when a fundraiser for >>>>>>> "Children in Need" was interrupted by the DJ who >>>>>>> brought news from US killing, by drone, of >>>>>>> presumably >>>>>>> one of the men on the videos released by ISIS, >>>>>>> the presumed "Jihadi John"; the person assumed >>>>>>> to be this man pulverized by the drone rocket >>>>>>> (including all those in the car). Strangely, I >>>>>>> then had to listen >>>>>>> to the british prime minister praising the US >>>>>>> commando strike and also saying - referring to >>>>>>> the Islamic State as an “evil terrorist death >>>>>>> cult" – that "Mr Emwazi is a barbaric murderer. >>>>>>> This "will be a strike at the heart of ISIL, >>>>>>> and it will demonstrate to those who would do >>>>>>> Britain, our people and our allies harm we have >>>>>>> a long reach, we have unwavering determination >>>>>>> and we never forget about our citizens.” >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After returning to Children in Need, then the >>>>>>> radio host comes back with a brief interview >>>>>>> with a fellow worker and friend of one of the >>>>>>> kidnapped victims of ISIS, who argued that he >>>>>>> would have prefered the british >>>>>>> government to help when they could've sought to >>>>>>> press for the hostage's release, as other >>>>>>> countries had done; that the prime minister's >>>>>>> hypocrisy is repulsive, and that he also would >>>>>>> "have prefered Mr Emwazi to have been brought to >>>>>>> justice." >>>>>>> I was relieved to hear a worker bring up this >>>>>>> idea of justice, and the political processes of >>>>>>> negotiations that may precede drone strikes. In >>>>>>> any case, I was feeling sick when all this >>>>>>> surfaced on the radio. I wonder how this >>>>>>> played out in the US or in the Middle East, in >>>>>>> Raqqa, or other towns in the region. (A >>>>>>> commentator on the radio, and there always are >>>>>>> 'experts' to be found quickly, it seems, claimed >>>>>>> to be a professor at the "Institute of >>>>>>> Radicalization >>>>>>> & Political Violence," Kings College, and >>>>>>> thought the strike was great, and the drones are >>>>>>> wonderful as their permanent presence over the >>>>>>> heads of peoples there instills fear) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Johannes >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> helen varley jamieson >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >>>>> <http://www.creative-catalyst.com/> >>>>> http://www.upstage.org.nz <http://www.upstage.org.nz/> >>>>> >>>>> /We have a situation!/ Rio de Janeiro - JOIN US ONLINE on >>>>> 7 November 2015 >>>>> <http://www.wehaveasituation.net/?page_id=1222> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> /Unaussprechnbarlich/, München, November-Dezember 2015 >>>>> <http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> >> -- >> helen varley jamieson >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.creative-catalyst.com >> http://www.upstage.org.nz >> >> >> >> /We have a situation!/ Rio de Janeiro - JOIN US ONLINE on 7 >> November 2015 <http://www.wehaveasituation.net/?page_id=1222> >> >> /Unaussprechnbarlich/, München, November-Dezember 2015 >> <http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > > > > _______________________________________________ > NetBehaviour mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- helen varley jamieson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.upstage.org.nz /We have a situation!/ Rio de Janeiro - JOIN US ONLINE on 7 November 2015 <http://www.wehaveasituation.net/?page_id=1222> /Unaussprechnbarlich/, München, November-Dezember 2015 <http://unaussprechbarlich.tumblr.com/>
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