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Hello all, When I recieved the email from Turbulence.org, that they would be suspending operations at the end of this year, I immediately posted notice to the netbehaviour email list. I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed in the reaction there and here. Most people have responded in a way that suggests that they appreciate what turbulence.org has done over the years and seem to accept a notion that they have done marvelous work but that it is now time to let it end. I don't agree. What turbulence.org has done is to further the exploration of the internet and networks in general as an art form. The notion that they have done what can be done would suggest that this has now been fully explored and we've reached the end. This is not the case. Losing turbulence.org means losing a platform that has prompted continuous exploration into a very unique artform that is constantly expanding. I agree that we have to find a way to archive what Helen and Jo have done but we also need to find a way to continue their work. We're not done. Best r. Pall Thayer On Sun, May 8, 2016 at 8:55 PM Annette Weintraub <weintr...@ccny.cuny.edu> wrote: > Helen and Jo, > > It’s been an extraordinary run. Thanks for your dedication to net art in > all its forms, your hard work to keep this going as long as it has, and for > your continuing support. > > 20 years in Net Art is an aeon! > > Warmly, > Annette > > Annette Weintraub > anne...@annetteweintraub.com > > > > On May 7, 2016, at 2:17 PM, New Radio and Performing Arts Inc. < > newradio....@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Turbulence.org Artist/Friend, > > After an extraordinary 20-year run, NRPA co-directors Helen Thorington and > Jo-Anne Green announce the end of the Turbulence.org project. > > Operating Support has steadily declined over the past decade, and has > reached a point where it no longer sustains our involvement. We will go > offline on December 31, 2016. > > If you need access to our server to obtain a copy of your files, please > contact Helen at helen.thoring...@gmail.com > > With warm wishes, > > Helen and Jo > -- > Helen Thorington and Jo-Anne Green, Co-Directors > New Radio and Performing Arts, Inc. > http://new-radio.org > http://turbulence.org > http://somewhere.org > > > Annette Weintraub > anne...@annetteweintraub.com > > > > Annette Weintraub > anne...@annetteweintraub.com > > > > -- P Thayer, Artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org -- P Thayer, Artist http://pallthayer.dyndns.org
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