On Sat, Sep 15, 2018 at 12:15:55AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2018-09-14 22:07, m...@netbsd.org wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 11:08:29AM +0000, Valery Ushakov wrote:
> > > m...@netbsd.org wrote:
> > >
> > > > Every time we have this discussion someone ends up saying that yes,
> > > > everything being terrible and not supporting anything modern is a
> > > > great default. they like it that way.
> > >
> > > /etc/ttys uses wsvt25 on all ttyE* for a long long time. It only uses
> > > vt100 for console, which may be a serial console, so vt100 is a safe
> > > default there. If you know you don't use serial console you can edit
> > > 1 (one) line in ttys. Do you really think this is "terrible"?
> >
> > etc.sparc64/ttys:console "/usr/libexec/getty suncons" wsvt25 on secure
> >
> > Why is sparc{,64} exempt from having shitty defaults? because people who
> > use it don't have to ask netbsd-users if they happen to use sufficiently
> > shitty hardware to justify shitty defaults?
> >
> > x86 hardware doesn't even have console 99% of the time!
> > sysinst isn't a solution because sysinst barely supports amd64.
>
> If you don't even have a console, why are you complaining?
Because the default terminal on amd64 is the vt100 console one.
