Wouldn’t matter, java_home doesn’t  work at all, at least not in any reasonable 
way, on Big Sur. Regardless of the arguments.   At least I can’t get it to do 
anything useful on my install of Big Sur. 

Scott

> On Nov 16, 2020, at 10:53 AM, Christian Oyarzun <c...@oyarzun.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> I believe part of the problem is in nbexec. While we fixed the installer to 
> remove /usr/libexec/java_home argument changes in Big Sur, we missed it  in 
> nbexec. 
> 
> https://github.com/apache/netbeans/commit/e9143f9d2057fe66e0bffd5db955cf228d364346
> 
> % git grep java_home
> contrib/j2ee.weblogic9/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/weblogic9/WLPluginProperties.java:
>     public static final String BEA_JAVA_HOME="bea_java_home";           // 
> NOI18N
> contrib/j2ee.weblogic9/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/weblogic9/WLPluginProperties.java:
>     public static final String SUN_JAVA_HOME="sun_java_home";           // 
> NOI18N
> contrib/j2ee.weblogic9/src/org/netbeans/modules/j2ee/weblogic9/WLPluginProperties.java:
>     public static final String JAVA_HOME ="java_home";                  // 
> NOI18N
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/commonfiles/get_current_jdk.sh:    if [ -x 
> "/usr/libexec/java_home" ]; then
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/commonfiles/get_current_jdk.sh:        
> jdkhome=`/usr/libexec/java_home`
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/commonfiles/postinstall/postinstall:DEFAULT_JDK_HOME=`/usr/libexec/java_home`
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/commonfiles/unpack200_to_dir.sh:javapath=`/usr/libexec/java_home
>  --version 1.8`
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist:        
> if(system.files.fileExistsAtPath('/usr/libexec/java_home')) {
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution-nbide.dist:           var res 
> = system.run("/usr/libexec/java_home", "--failfast");
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution.dist:        
> if(system.files.fileExistsAtPath('/usr/libexec/java_home')) {
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/dmg/distribution.dist:           var res = 
> system.run("/usr/libexec/java_home", "--failfast");
> nbbuild/installer/mac/newbuild/pack200.sh:javaPath=`/usr/libexec/java_home 
> --version 1.8`
> nbi/engine/native/launcher/unix/src/launcher.sh:        if [ -x 
> "/usr/libexec/java_home" ]; then
> nbi/engine/native/launcher/unix/src/launcher.sh:            
> javaOnMacHome=`/usr/libexec/java_home --failfast`
> platform/o.n.bootstrap/launcher/unix/nbexec:            if [ -x 
> "/usr/libexec/java_home" ]; then
> platform/o.n.bootstrap/launcher/unix/nbexec:                
> jdkhome=`/usr/libexec/java_home --version 1.8.0+ --failfast`
> 
>  --Christian
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:45 PM Geertjan Wielenga 
>> <geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> So far, the only problem I've been able to identify via interactions in a 
>> NetBeans issue re Big Sur is that it seems that during the installation of 
>> Big Sur, various permissions appear to be overwritten so that the NetBeans 
>> launcher can't launch NetBeans.
>> 
>> So, just check the permissions and, to verify further, use the command line 
>> with 'sudo' to run NetBeans, which, if it succeeds, tells you that your 
>> permissions are messed up.
>> 
>> Gj
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 10:43 PM Scott Palmer <swpal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Does the NB installer try to find the JDK folder by calling 
>>> /usr/libexec/java_home ?  If so, the java_home tool is completely broken 
>>> under Big Sur and will not return a JDK folder unless a JAVA_HOME 
>>> environment variable is *already* set to a valid JDK, in which case the 
>>> java_home tool always returns the value $JAVA_HOME.  If JAVA_HOME isn't 
>>> already set, the java_home tool doesn't work at all.  You can get it to 
>>> list other JDKs installed if JAVA_HOME is already set to a valid home 
>>> folder for one of the JDKs.
>>> 
>>> I reported these issues to Apple during the Big Sur beta and the report 
>>> seemed to be reviewed by somebody that didn't have a clue what they were 
>>> doing and said java_home was working as designed!  I reported a couple 
>>> issues that remain unresolved.  Not sure if anyone has a contact at Apple 
>>> (the one email address I had bounced), but if you do maybe you can give 
>>> them a nudge.
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 11:19 AM Christian Oyarzun <c...@oyarzun.net> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I think there are potentially two issues at play with MacOS.
>>>> 
>>>> 1. NETBEANS-5004 Netbeans not allowed to access personal files and folder
>>>> under macOS
>>>>     https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-5004
>>>>     This does not have to do with Big Sur, but rather if you use JDK 11.0.9
>>>> you can no longer access files from your Desktop or Documents folders.
>>>>     From looking at the comments in the issue, the problem seems to be that
>>>> NetBeans is launched with a shell script which is not signed.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. And an issue with dialogs in Big Sur.
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202011.mbox/%3CDDBAC320-96AA-42AF-99D6-00F5AAA9566C%40jcmachado.net%3E
>>>>     Not sure if this is the same issue as it just says it does not work.
>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/netbeans-dev/202011.mbox/%3C78454EE5-6CBB-44A2-950D-0E24C85BC89E%40icloud.com%3E
>>>> 
>>>> Not having Big Sur installed, I have not encountered #2. But I have seen
>>>> NETBEANS-5004 with Catalina and JDK 11.0.9 and the workaround is to run
>>>> NetBeans from the Terminal.
>>>> 
>>>> --Christian
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:58 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
>>>> <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > Well,
>>>> >
>>>> > So far there is no open blocker issue reported against NetBeans.
>>>> > Supporting an OS which just released to the public would be nice, but it
>>>> > wasn't really in the scope in the last 3 months.
>>>> >
>>>> > As far as I knew the situation, some people reported weird rendering
>>>> > issues, which could be the JDK, and lately that our Mac installer does
>>>> > not work on BugSur, which have the work around of using our zip
>>>> > distribution.
>>>> >
>>>> > These could be covered in the Release Notes. If we have real issues to
>>>> > act on, those could be fixed in 12.3 (must be reported first though)
>>>> >
>>>> > Again, we are releasing the Source code. Though convenience binaries are
>>>> > important, we cannot be expected to support every new and shiny right
>>>> > after it is released.
>>>> >
>>>> > So we are still on track with the 15th of November cut of 12.2 release.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 11/13/20 12:33 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > I think we need to look at these new Mac related issues and shouldn’t
>>>> > > release 12.2 until we have some response or plan around that.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Gj
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 08:51, Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>> > > <laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com <mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Dear Apache NetBeans community,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     The second, and hopefully final release candidate of Apache 
>>>> > > NetBeans
>>>> > >     12.2 is available.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     This one is fixing one blocker issue [NETBEANS-5007] No restart of
>>>> > >     language server after change of JDK home
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     as of: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2531
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Technically this codechange only affects the upcoming VSCode
>>>> > >     Extension,
>>>> > >     so our target date for cutting the release is still 15th of 
>>>> > > November.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     **The following rules are applied to the PR-s :**
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     As this is a release candidate, if everything goes right the 
>>>> > > release
>>>> > >     build would be cut from the very same git commit as this one.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Only fixes for blocker issues are allowed this time! The rules are
>>>> > >     the
>>>> > >     following:
>>>> > >     - The blocker issue, if found has to be announced and discussed on
>>>> > >     the
>>>> > >     developer mailing list first. Please note that if you have concern
>>>> > >     about
>>>> > >     the the licensing of some files/component please raise it now as
>>>> > >     those
>>>> > >     are considered blocking.
>>>> > >     - If there would be an eventual need of fix, please:
>>>> > >     - Mark the milestone as: 12.2
>>>> > >     - Please add me (lkishalmi) as an additional reviewer
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     That would also indicate that we do another release candidate when
>>>> > >     the
>>>> > >     issue is fixed.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     I've merged all the changes happened for NetBeans12.2-rc2 to the
>>>> > >     master
>>>> > >     as well:
>>>> > >     - If you feel the PR is ready for 12.3 then mark that milestone
>>>> > >     - Add the usual reviewers
>>>> > >     - API/SPI changes are fine
>>>> > >     - Structural changes are welcome if needed
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     If everything goes right the Next action would be the vote on the
>>>> > >     release from 15th of November!
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     The NetBeans 12.2-rc2 artifacts are here:
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Link to the binary zip:
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-bin.zip
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     SHA512:
>>>> > >
>>>> >  
>>>> > 5b9f8194f997ce72c4f4a4cec2b32c6c0422cc5d1a3bc7a2862e813797998b7474a5f93979fb1bb8e3222b31fbe03260a452d116fdca65238c520cde01174891
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     The sources are here:
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-source.zip
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     SHA512:
>>>> > >
>>>> >  
>>>> > 9152c7ea1e87403ed4855ebbafbdcd431725bd1b685ad8dfeefb7c7418d1545a2eaf996e94df379516f22a6d3d41171c09571810df19e40a7d1cf5e5e578e269
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Release schedule :
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Bug Priority Guidelines :
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     Thank you for your contributions!
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     --
>>>> > >     Laszlo Kishalmi
>>>> > >     Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >     
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