According to your description of the issue it doesn't need a very exotic 
scenario to trigger it.
And due to the fact that Realtek network chips are used on a lot of consumer 
mainboards, I would
assume quite some people are using such a mainboard for a use case like yours.
This makes it somewhat suspicious that at least I'm not aware of more such 
reports.
Therefore I think it's a good idea to check the other components of the 
internal network.

On 12.12.2018 02:28, Risto Pajula wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> I added some debug prints to diagnose the bug properly. I can send the 
> patches if you are willing to debug/try... for example this output is 
> produced:
> 
> 96096:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.466703: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
> RTLDBG221 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 opts1: B0000000 txpol: 0 entry: 
> 24 cur_tx: 5656 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 8
> 96097:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.466704: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
> RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl_tx_slots_avail
> 96099:          <idle>-0     [000] d.h.   232.468827: rtl8169_interrupt: 
> RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt
> 96103:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.468833: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 
> eth1 rtl8169_poll
> 96104:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.468834: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 
> eth1 rtl_rx
> 96105:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.468835: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 
> eth1 rtl8169_try_rx_copy
> 96184:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.468914: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 
> rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: B00005E2 txpol: 0 entry: 16 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 
> dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 9
> 96185:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.468924: rtl_tx: RTLDBG223 eth1 
> rtl_tx entry opts1: 16, B00005E2 17, B00005E2 18, B00005E2 19, B00005E2 20, 
> B00005E2 21, B00005E2 22, B00005E2 23, B00005E2 24, B00005E2
> 96189:          <idle>-0     [000] d.h.   232.469006: rtl8169_interrupt: 
> RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt
> 96193:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469012: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 
> eth1 rtl8169_poll
> 96194:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469014: rtl8169_poll: RTLDBG111 
> eth1 rtl_rx
> 96196:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469020: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 
> rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: 30000000 txpol: 0 entry: 16 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 
> dirty_tx: 5648 tx_left: 9
> 96204:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469032: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 
> rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: 30000000 txpol: 0 entry: 17 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 
> dirty_tx: 5649 tx_left: 8
> 96212:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469041: rtl_tx: RTLDBG222 eth1 
> rtl_tx len: 1506 opts1: B00005E2 txpol: 0 entry: 18 cur_tx: 5657 frags: 0 
> dirty_tx: 5650 tx_left: 7
> 96213:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.   232.469050: rtl_tx: RTLDBG223 eth1 
> rtl_tx entry opts1: 18, B00005E2 19, B00005E2 20, B00005E2 21, B00005E2 22, 
> B00005E2 23, B00005E2 24, B00005E2
> 96235:          <idle>-0     [000] d.h.   232.471253: rtl8169_interrupt: 
> RTLDBG111 eth1 rtl8169_interrupt
> 
> Here we can clearly see that TX Fifo descriptors are properly setup and send 
> is initiated, but then the rtl8169 stops sending after few frames. I think 
> the bug is in the HW side (or in the rtl8169 firmware). Some PCI settings 
> might affect this, but then again shouldn't the rtl8169 then report PCI error 
> interrupt...
> 
> Also this TX Fifo stalling happens with any traffic and no 
> netflix/netgem/large tcp windows are required to trigger it. What the 
> netgem/netflix does is that it causes this bug to be visible by probably due 
> to timing of the traffic pattern, and thus causes also upper layers of the 
> network stack to take actions..
> 
> RTL8168evl indeed is a onboard Ethernet on a reasonable new mothorboard and 
> the RTL8169sb is and old PCI card. But, the same issue happens with both 
> ethernet adapters (I switched the interfaces).
> 
> But then again - this got me thinking... If the issue (send fifo stalling) 
> does not happen in the internet facing interface even with heavy upload 
> traffic, then the problem must be in the internal network itself. Tomorrow I 
> will change the Ethernet switch. There could be some sort of compatibility 
> problem?
> 
> BR.
> Risto
> 
> 
> On 11.12.2018 21:51, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>> OK, then another idea .. At the very beginning of the mail thread it
>> was stated that the router has to network ports:
>> linux router: Linux computer with Dualcore Intel Celeron G1840, running 
>> currently Linux kernel 4.20.0-rc2, and openSUSE Leap 15.0
>> eth1: Linux Routers internal (NAT) interface, 192.168.0.1/24 network, mtu 
>> set to 1500, RTL8169sb/8110sb
>> eth0: Linux Routers internet facing interface, public ip address, mtu set to 
>> 1500,  RTL8168evl/8111evl
>>
>> r8169 supports about 50 members of the RTL8169/RTL8168/RTL8101 family
>> and more or less every single member needs its own quirks.
>> RTL8168evl (PCIe) is somewhat recent, RTL8169sb (PCI) is ancient.
>> To rule out you triggered some hardware issue: Could you switch both
>> interfaces and check whether you see a change in system behavior?
>>
>> On 11.12.2018 18:01, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> A freshly built 4.20.0-rc6-next-20181210-lp150.12.25-default waited me when 
>>> I got back from work, but unfortunately it did not help at all, it behaved 
>>> exactly in same manner.
>>>
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=73ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=83ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=307ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time=115ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>> Reply from 192.168.0.1: bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=64
>>>
>>> BR.
>>> Risto
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11.12.2018 0:20, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>>> Hello.
>>>>
>>>> I have not yet tested with linux-next but I will, thanks for pointing that 
>>>> out.
>>>>
>>>> ...But I have studied the problem a bit more, indeed it seems that the 
>>>> rtl8169 transmission queue gets stuck.
>>>>
>>>> Below is some trace log. Starting from 802026 a burst of frames is 
>>>> forwarded from eth0 to eth1 and when we get to the rtl_tx only two frames 
>>>> have been transmitted.. (Should have had 1,25 ms to transmit them).. Also 
>>>> then the sequence seems to repeat for very long time that only two 
>>>> massages get transmitted.
>>>>
>>>> 800541:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698143: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 34 cur_tx: 4406946 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 0
>>>> 800671:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698189: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 35 cur_tx: 4406947 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 1
>>>> 800835:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698235: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 36 cur_tx: 4406948 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406946 tx_left: 2
>>>> 800905:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698255: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406946 
>>>> tx_left: 3
>>>> 800932:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698263: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406947 
>>>> tx_left: 2
>>>> 800960:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698270: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406948 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 800998:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698282: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 37 cur_tx: 4406949 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406949 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801085:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698312: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 38 cur_tx: 4406950 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406949 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801137:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698329: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 38 cur_tx: 4406950 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406950 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801229:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698363: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 39 cur_tx: 4406951 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406950 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801264:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698375: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 39 cur_tx: 4406951 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406951 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801356:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698409: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 40 cur_tx: 4406952 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406951 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801391:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698421: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 40 cur_tx: 4406952 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406952 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801482:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698455: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 41 cur_tx: 4406953 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406952 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801518:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698468: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 41 cur_tx: 4406953 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406953 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801610:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698502: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 42 cur_tx: 4406954 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406953 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801645:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698514: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 42 cur_tx: 4406954 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406954 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801737:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698548: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 43 cur_tx: 4406955 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406954 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801772:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698560: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 43 cur_tx: 4406955 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406955 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801864:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698594: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 44 cur_tx: 4406956 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406955 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 801899:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698607: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 44 cur_tx: 4406956 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406956 tx_left: 0
>>>> 801984:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.698640: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 45 cur_tx: 4406957 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406956 
>>>> tx_left: 1
>>>> 802026:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698655: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 45 cur_tx: 4406957 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 0
>>>> 802129:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698701: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 46 cur_tx: 4406958 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 1
>>>> 802232:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698747: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 47 cur_tx: 4406959 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 2
>>>> 802335:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698793: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 48 cur_tx: 4406960 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 3
>>>> 802438:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698840: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 49 cur_tx: 4406961 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 4
>>>> 802541:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698885: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 50 cur_tx: 4406962 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 5
>>>> 802644:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698932: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 51 cur_tx: 4406963 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 6
>>>> 802747:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.698978: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 52 cur_tx: 4406964 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 7
>>>> 802851:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.699025: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 53 cur_tx: 4406965 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406957 tx_left: 8
>>>> 805094:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.699871: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406957 
>>>> tx_left: 9
>>>> 805126:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.699878: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406958 
>>>> tx_left: 8
>>>> 805197:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.699905: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 54 cur_tx: 4406966 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406959 tx_left: 7
>>>> 805234:          <idle>-0     [001] ..s.  7237.699925: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 55 cur_tx: 4406967 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406959 tx_left: 8
>>>> 811446:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.702344: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406959 
>>>> tx_left: 9
>>>> 811479:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.702354: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406960 
>>>> tx_left: 8
>>>> 811641:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.702395: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 56 cur_tx: 4406968 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406961 tx_left: 7
>>>> 811733:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.702416: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 57 cur_tx: 4406969 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406961 tx_left: 8
>>>> 812050:          hping3-2871  [000] ..s.  7237.704770: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406961 
>>>> tx_left: 9
>>>> 812061:          hping3-2871  [000] ..s.  7237.704777: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406962 
>>>> tx_left: 8
>>>> 812124:          hping3-2871  [000] ..s.  7237.704811: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 58 cur_tx: 4406970 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406963 tx_left: 7
>>>> 812176:          hping3-2871  [000] ..s.  7237.704831: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 59 cur_tx: 4406971 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406963 tx_left: 8
>>>> 812300:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.707247: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406963 
>>>> tx_left: 9
>>>> 812312:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.707257: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406964 
>>>> tx_left: 8
>>>> 812389:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.707297: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 60 cur_tx: 4406972 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406965 tx_left: 7
>>>> 812426:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.707318: rtl8169_start_xmit: 
>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 1506 entry: 61 cur_tx: 4406973 frags: 0 
>>>> dirty_tx: 4406965 tx_left: 8
>>>> 812827:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.709690: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 62 cur_tx: 4406974 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406965 
>>>> tx_left: 9
>>>> 812838:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  7237.709700: rtl8169_poll: ORP33 
>>>> eth1 rtl_tx len: 1506 entry: 62 cur_tx: 4406974 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 4406966 
>>>> tx_left: 8
>>>> .....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> BR.
>>>> Risto
>>>>
>>>> On 10.12.2018 23:26, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
>>>>> Did you test also with the latest linux-next kernel? Some recent changes 
>>>>> like 2e6eedb4813e
>>>>> "r8169: make use of xmit_more and __netdev_sent_queue" may have a 
>>>>> positive impact.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10.12.2018 00:28, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Old subject: "Re: IP fragmentation performance and don't fragment bug 
>>>>>> when forwarding
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have now been tracing the kernel and finding the bug seems difficult. 
>>>>>> I think the bug is combination of several things, likely cause is that 
>>>>>> it only occurs with rtl8169 and how it is using the netdevapi/DQL api.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   From my investigations seems that following happens:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Burst of frames is received from internet. (eth0)
>>>>>> *These are accepted and forwarded to the (eth1)
>>>>>> *DQL hits the limit, this causes the scheduling for the device to be 
>>>>>> stopped (__QUEUE_STATE_STACK_XOFF)
>>>>>> *This and combination of some timing causes the  performance 
>>>>>> degradation, messages are only scheduled for transmission in soft Irq 
>>>>>> context.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still do now know, why the DQL hits the limits.. I think it should 
>>>>>> not,  maybe something undesirable first happens with rtl8169.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I inserted following trace printk functions to the code..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit:
>>>>>> trace_printk("ORP33 %s rtl8169_start_xmit len: %d entry: %u cur_tx: %u 
>>>>>> frags: %d dirty_tx: %u tx_left: %u\n" , tp->dev->name, skb->len, entry, 
>>>>>> tp->cur_tx, frags, tp->dirty_tx, (tp->cur_tx - tp->dirty_tx) );
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> rtl_tx:
>>>>>> trace_printk("ORP33 %s rtl_tx len: %d entry: %u cur_tx: %u frags: %d 
>>>>>> dirty_tx: %u tx_left: %u\n" , tp->dev->name, tx_skb->skb->len, 
>>>>>> tp->cur_tx % NUM_TX_DESC, tp->cur_tx, 0, dirty_tx, tx_left );
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Here is some grepped output only filtering the ping packet in two 
>>>>>> different situations:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //trace when downloading ubuntu (~20MB/s), only 3 secs fit to buffer. 
>>>>>> ping is all the time normal....
>>>>>> //orig tracing.out3754
>>>>>> 117493:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  5235.407116: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 57 cur_tx: 3747641 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 3747640 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 118704:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  5235.416057: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 20 cur_tx: 3747668 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 3747667 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 346319:          hping3-2871  [000] ....  5236.002456: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 8 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 3754312 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 3754312 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 346337:          hping3-2871  [000] ..s.  5236.002475: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 9 cur_tx: 3754313 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 3754312 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 1277155:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  5237.002627: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 38 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 3766502 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 3766502 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 1277173:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  5237.002646: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 39 cur_tx: 3766503 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 3766502 tx_left: 1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> //imcp messages from route to intenal network when TCP stream is on. 
>>>>>> tracing.out3236/eth1_ring.txt is the original
>>>>>> //no idea why the first frame is tripled...
>>>>>> 200792:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3239.593384: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 34 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2132770 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2132770 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 201578:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3240.593625: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 40 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2132776 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2132776 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 341061:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3241.738011: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 52 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2133684 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2133680 tx_left: 4
>>>>>> 342112:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3241.745297: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 59 cur_tx: 2133691 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2133684 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 500126:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3242.739500: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 49 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2134513 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2134505 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 501739:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3242.751654: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 58 cur_tx: 2134522 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2134513 tx_left: 9
>>>>>> 646220:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3243.745761: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 41 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2135273 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2135267 tx_left: 6
>>>>>> 647633:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3243.755486: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 49 cur_tx: 2135281 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2135273 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 802878:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3244.739947: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 23 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2136087 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2136081 tx_left: 6
>>>>>> 804298:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3244.749677: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 31 cur_tx: 2136095 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2136087 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 961190:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3245.746217: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 16 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2136912 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2136906 tx_left: 6
>>>>>> 962610:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3245.755946: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 24 cur_tx: 2136920 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2136912 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 1118044:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3246.740336: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 62 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2137726 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2137720 tx_left: 6
>>>>>> 1119443:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3246.750047: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 5 cur_tx: 2137733 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2137726 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1264047:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3247.709202: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 29 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2138525 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2138518 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1264740:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3247.718918: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 33 cur_tx: 2138529 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2138525 tx_left: 4
>>>>>> 1419958:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3248.736436: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 48 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2139312 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2139305 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1421551:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3248.746189: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 56 cur_tx: 2139320 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2139312 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 1578746:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3249.742702: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 46 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2140142 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2140135 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1580194:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3249.752457: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 54 cur_tx: 2140150 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2140142 tx_left: 8
>>>>>> 1729597:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3250.746839: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 36 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2140964 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2140957 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1731015:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3250.756594: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 43 cur_tx: 2140971 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2140964 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1881028:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3251.740991: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 19 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2141779 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2141772 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> 1881381:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3251.750718: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 26 cur_tx: 2141786 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2141779 tx_left: 7
>>>>>> //something happens, the output queue empties.. now it is fast, and 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit is not called from soft_irq
>>>>>> 1896178:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3252.595994: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 23 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2141911 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2141911 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 1896196:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3252.596055: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 24 cur_tx: 2141912 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2141911 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 1923136:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3253.596227: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 50 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2142066 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142066 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 1923154:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3253.596289: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 51 cur_tx: 2142067 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2142066 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 1951633:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3254.596459: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 5 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2142213 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142213 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 1951651:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3254.596521: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 6 cur_tx: 2142214 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2142213 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> 1954472:          hping3-2871  [001] ....  3255.596700: 
>>>>>> rtl8169_start_xmit: ORP33 eth1 rtl8169_start_xmit len: 54 entry: 15 
>>>>>> cur_tx: 2142223 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 2142223 tx_left: 0
>>>>>> 1954490:          <idle>-0     [000] ..s.  3255.596763: rtl8169_poll: 
>>>>>> ORP33 eth1 rtl_tx len: 54 entry: 16 cur_tx: 2142224 frags: 0 dirty_tx: 
>>>>>> 2142223 tx_left: 1
>>>>>> //until it soon, again is slow..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BR.
>>>>>> Risto
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7.12.2018 16:46, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have been to track the poor forwarding latency to the TCP Window 
>>>>>>> scale options. The Netgem device uses rather large windows scale 
>>>>>>> options (x256) and I have been able to reproduce the routers poor 
>>>>>>> forwarding latency also with linux box running in the internal network 
>>>>>>> and changing the net.ipv4.tcp_rmem to a large value and thus changing 
>>>>>>> the TCP window scaling options to larger ones. I still do not have clue 
>>>>>>> why this causes the forwarfing in the linux kernel to block? Maybe 
>>>>>>> something in the connection tracking....?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With the ICMP timestamp messages I have been able to also pinpoint that 
>>>>>>> the latency is caused in the eth1 sending side (the following hping3 
>>>>>>> example is run in the router toward the internal network...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> xxx:/usr/src/linux-4.20-rc2 # hping3 192.168.0.112 --icmp --icmp-ts -V
>>>>>>> using eth1, addr: 192.168.0.1, MTU: 1500
>>>>>>> HPING 192.168.0.112 (eth1 192.168.0.112): icmp mode set, 28 headers + 0 
>>>>>>> data bytes
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49464 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=0 rtt=7.9 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52294891 Receive=52294895 Transmit=52294895
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49795 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=1 rtt=235.9 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52295891 Receive=52296128 Transmit=52296128
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=235
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=49941 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=2 rtt=3.8 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52296891 Receive=52296895 Transmit=52296895
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=50685 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=3 rtt=47.8 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52297891 Receive=52297940 Transmit=52297940
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=47
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=51266 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=4 rtt=7.7 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52298891 Receive=52298895 Transmit=52298895
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=7
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> len=46 ip=192.168.0.112 ttl=64 id=52245 tos=0 iplen=40
>>>>>>> icmp_seq=5 rtt=3.7 ms
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp: Originate=52299891 Receive=52299895 Transmit=52299895
>>>>>>> ICMP timestamp RTT tsrtt=3
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ^C
>>>>>>> --- 192.168.0.112 hping statistic ---
>>>>>>> 6 packets tramitted, 6 packets received, 0% packet loss
>>>>>>> round-trip min/avg/max = 3.7/51.1/235.9 ms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BR.
>>>>>>> Risto
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2.12.2018 23:32, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can most likely ignore the "DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding" case. 
>>>>>>>> There isn't actually big IP packets on the wire, instead there is 
>>>>>>>> burst of packets on the wire, which are combined by the GRO... And 
>>>>>>>> thus dropping them should not happen. Sorry about the invalid bug 
>>>>>>>> report.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However the poor latency from intenal network to the internet still 
>>>>>>>> remain, both GRO enabled and disabled. I will try to study further...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BR.
>>>>>>>> Risto
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2.12.2018 14:01, Risto Pajula wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have encountered a weird performance problem in Linux IP 
>>>>>>>>> fragmentation when using video streaming services behind the NAT. 
>>>>>>>>> Also I have studied a possible bug in the DF bit (don't fragment) 
>>>>>>>>> handling when forwarding the IP packets.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First the system setup description:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [host1]-int lan-(eth1)[linux router](eth0)-extlan-[fibre 
>>>>>>>>> router]-internet
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where:
>>>>>>>>> host1: is a Netgem N7800 "cable box" for online video streaming 
>>>>>>>>> services provided by local telco (Can access Netflix, HBO nordic, 
>>>>>>>>> "live TV", etc.)
>>>>>>>>> linux router: Linux computer with Dualcore Intel Celeron G1840, 
>>>>>>>>> running currently Linux kernel 4.20.0-rc2, and openSUSE Leap 15.0
>>>>>>>>> eth1: Linux Routers internal (NAT) interface, 192.168.0.1/24 network, 
>>>>>>>>> mtu set to 1500, RTL8169sb/8110sb
>>>>>>>>> eth0: Linux Routers internet facing interface, public ip address, mtu 
>>>>>>>>> set to 1500,  RTL8168evl/8111evl
>>>>>>>>> fibre router: Alcatel Lucent fibre router (I-241G-Q), directly 
>>>>>>>>> connected to the eth0 of the Linux router.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And now when using the Netgem N7800 with online video services 
>>>>>>>>> (Netflix, HBO nordic, etc) the Linux router will receive very BIG IP 
>>>>>>>>> packets in the eth0 upto ~20kB, this seems to lead to the following 
>>>>>>>>> problems in the Linux IP stack.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> IP fragmentation performance:
>>>>>>>>> When the Linux router receives these large IP packets in the eth0 
>>>>>>>>> everything works, but it seems that them cause very large performance 
>>>>>>>>> degradation from internal network to the internet regarding the 
>>>>>>>>> latency when the IP fragmentation is performed. The ping latency from 
>>>>>>>>> internal network to the internel network increases from stable 
>>>>>>>>> 15ms-20ms up to 700-800ms AND also the ping from the internal network 
>>>>>>>>> to the linux router eth1 (192.168.0.). However up link works 
>>>>>>>>> perfectly, the ping is still stable when streaming the online 
>>>>>>>>> services (From linux router to the internet). It seems that the IP 
>>>>>>>>> fragmentation is somehow blocking the eth1 reception or transmission 
>>>>>>>>> for very long time (which it shouldn't). I'm able to test and debug 
>>>>>>>>> the issue further, but advice regarding where to look would be 
>>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DF Bit, mtu bug when forwarding:
>>>>>>>>> I have started to study the above mentioned problem and have found a 
>>>>>>>>> possible bug in the DF bit and mtu handling in IP forwarding. The BIG 
>>>>>>>>> packets received from streaming services all have the "DF bit" set 
>>>>>>>>> and the question is that should we be forwarding them at all as that 
>>>>>>>>> would result them being fragmented? Apparently we currently are... I 
>>>>>>>>> have traced this down to the ip_forward.c function ip_exceeds_mtu(), 
>>>>>>>>> and the following patch seems to fix that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- net/ipv4/ip_forward.c.orig  2018-12-02 11:09:32.764320780 +0200
>>>>>>>>> +++ net/ipv4/ip_forward.c       2018-12-02 12:53:25.031232347 +0200
>>>>>>>>> @@ -49,7 +49,7 @@ static bool ip_exceeds_mtu(const struct
>>>>>>>>>                   return false;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           /* original fragment exceeds mtu and DF is set */
>>>>>>>>> -       if (unlikely(IPCB(skb)->frag_max_size > mtu))
>>>>>>>>> +        if (unlikely(skb->len > mtu))
>>>>>>>>>                   return true;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>           if (skb->ignore_df)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This seems to work (in some ways) - after the change IP packets that 
>>>>>>>>> are too large to the internal network get dropped and we are sending 
>>>>>>>>> "ICMP Destination unreachable, The datagram is too big" messages to 
>>>>>>>>> the originator (as we should?). However it seems that not all 
>>>>>>>>> services really like this... Netflix behaves as expected and ping is 
>>>>>>>>> stable from internal network to the internet, but for example HBO 
>>>>>>>>> nordic will not work anymore (too little buffering? Retransimissions 
>>>>>>>>> not working?). So it seems the original issue should be also fixed 
>>>>>>>>> (And the fragmention should be allowed?).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS. Watching TV was not this intensive 20 years ago :)
>>>>>>>>>
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