On 6/10/19 2:27 PM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
>> Maybe the broader question is how do you, Heiner and Russell imagine a
>> genuine case where the PHY does not have a firmware provided/loaded
>> before Linux does take over (say, BoM cost savings dictate no flash can
>> be used
> 
> I've not seen either of these PHY devices not have a FLASH. I also
> wonder how long such a download to RAM takes. I suspect it is
> slow. The boards i have, have a 4Mbit Flash, so, 256K 16bit words.
> How long does 256K MDIO transfers take, given that they are typically
> polled IO? Is that a reasonable design/cost trade off?

If you have a long enough uptime, sure. You could emulate the SPI flash
through the means of GPIO pins, it's embedded, so sky's (no pun
intended) is the limit :).
-- 
Florian

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