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Today's Topics:
1. Re: 1.0 release target? (Carlos Vicente)
2. Miscellaneous issues (James Andrewartha)
3. Topology issues (James Andrewartha)
4. Cable plant notes (James Andrewartha)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2012 15:10:51 -0400
From: Carlos Vicente <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Netdot-users] 1.0 release target?
To: Karl Putland <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hi Karl,
We're still busy fixing some bugs. I hope that we can release some time
next week.
Regards,
cv
On 8/1/12 11:37 AM, Karl Putland wrote:
> Has a target date been set for 1.0 release?
>
> Thanks,
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 13:27:10 +0800
From: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Miscellaneous issues
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Hi again,
This email is more of a grab-bag of things I've come across.
What's the point of VLAN groups? Our VLANs are largely non-contiguous,
although there are some like student labs which go from 500-526.
Clicking new in VLAN tasks only creates a VLAN group, and in the VLAN
group view you can only add a new VLAN, not associate an existing VLAN
with that group.
Another confusing set of similar pages with different functionality:
/netdot/management/vlan_tasks.html vs /netdot/management/?page=VLANS
Would it be possible to have some sort of IP grouping below subnets? For
example, we have Linux/Mac servers in 10.20.20.0/24 and Windows servers
in 10.20.10.0/24, with the latter reverse zone being delegated to AD to
manage as it will.
Also, 10.20.252.0/22 is the DHCP zone for that subnet. I worked out if
you create dynamic IPs they will then magically appear in the DHCP
subnet as a range within a pool, with reverses automatically created if
you tick the box. However, I've got our DHCP server set up to update the
forward and reverse zones and so don't want or need Netdot to create
static records for me. Plus, deleting or managing even 10s of IPs is a
pain through the webui.
The login timeout seems to not be based on idle time.
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 15:06:49 +0800
From: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Topology issues
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Hi once more,
Topology was mostly working when I first set up Netdot, and it
discovered all my switches, but now just a lot of my links have
disappeared. I ran update_devices.pl with -d, and got the following:
> DEBUG - Topology::get_dp_links: Interface id 3396: Remote Device name not
> found: 00-1f-45-9c-9b-c
> DEBUG - Topology::get_dp_links: Interface id 3396: Remote Device not found:
> 00-1f-45-9c-9b-c
> WARN - Topology::get_dp_links: pblock.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au [Unit: 1
> 1000BASE-T RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet Frontpanel Port 49 - sfp 1000BASE-SX
> inserted]: Port ge.2.111 not found in Device: core-s4.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au
> DEBUG - Topology::get_dp_links: Cannot find neighbor interface using
> 61:70:2d:64:31:2e:6e:65:74:77:6f:72:6b:2e:63:63:67:00:00
> DEBUG - Topology::get_dp_links: Interface id 3452: Remote Device MAC not
> found: 61:70:2d:64:31:2e:6e:65:74:77:6f:72:6b:2e:63:63:67:00:00
Looking at the output of show neighbours (we're an Enterasys shop) on
pblock I see:
> ge.1.49 00-1f-45-9c-9b-c ge.2.111 ciscodp 172.20.254.5
> ge.1.49 00-1f-45-9c-9b-ca 172.20.254.5 cdp 172.20.254.5
> ge.1.49 00:1F:45:9C:9B:CA ge.2.111 lldp 172.20.254.5
So it looks like the CiscoCP (CDP here is the Cabletron Discovery
Protocol) has an invalid value, and it's been put into the DP Remote ID
field on interface 3396. Is there a way to preference which discovery
protocol goes into the database?
>From the other direction:
> DEBUG - Topology::get_dp_links: Cannot find neighbor interface using
> 0011881cab89
> WARN - Topology::get_dp_links: core-s4.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au [Enterasys
> Networks, Inc. 1000BASE-SX Mini GBIC w/LC connector]: Port ge.1.49 not found
> in Device: pblock.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au
The Physical (MAC) Address field of interface 3396 is 0011881CABBA.
OK, it's actually worked now, earlier there was
> DEBUG - Topology::get_tree_stp_links: Found link: 3396 -> 724
and at the end:
> DEBUG - Adding new neighbors: pblock.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au [Unit: 1
> 1000BASE-T RJ45 Gigabit Ethernet Frontpanel Port 49 - sf
> p 1000BASE-SX inserted] <=> core-s4.network.ccgs.wa.edu.au [Enterasys
> Networks, Inc. 1000BASE-SX Mini GBIC w/LC connector], s
> core: 9
Incidentally, it takes 35 minutes to poll for topology, as it tries to
use SNMP to contact every single phone. I haven't set up
update_devices.pl to run from cron yet.
What devices are supposed to be in Netdot? Switches/routers, vmware
hosts, servers, desktops/laptops, IP phones? My guess is
switches/routers and nothing else, but then why is there a section for
IP Phones in the device inventory? Is it whatever I can query via SNMP?
Is it possible to exclude devices from the topology graph? Currently our
APs are thick IOS devices and so show up, but they just add noise.
I have a few devices with funny models - ice.132, ice.137, ice.141,
enterprises.3955.6.5024, enterprises.3955.6.3.2024.1 - I presume these
are because the MIBs don't have them? How do I update/install MIBs into
Netdot?
An external request - it'd be nice to find connected interfaces with a
mismatch in the configured VLANs:
http://lists.ausnog.net/pipermail/ausnog/2012-July/014264.html
Thanks,
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 12:32:51 +0800
From: James Andrewartha <[email protected]>
Subject: [Netdot-users] Cable plant notes
To: <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Hi all,
I've spent the last few days on and off putting all our cable plant into
Netdot (1.0 from git). I think I've got my head around it, but there's a
few things that aren't really clear.
First up, it would be great if there was some example data or a demo
site so people can see how things are supposed to work.
There's often two ways to view the same data, a simple table view and a
customised view, cf:
/netdot/cable_plant/edit.html?table=BackboneCable
/netdot/cable_plant/cable_backbone.html?id=NEW
and
/netdot/cable_plant/cable_backbone.html?id=4
/netdot/cable_plant/view.html?table=BackboneCable&id=4&view=all
The simple one is the often linked to from other views.
It'd be nice to be able to hide data fields that aren't relevant to our
site. These first three apply to the other modules in Netdot too.
Why can't you have a picture of a room? This is more related to
generalising locations so you can nest them I guess. Which is something
I'd like (and realise it's been discussed in the past), as we have one
main campus with a lot of buildings, so I've made them Sites but there's
no grouping of them beyond that.
I'm not entirely clear on what a splice is, but I assume it's where two
cables are connected together with a patch cable? I also don't
understand what a link is good for, apart from grouping circuits. Also
why there's a distinction between nearlink and farlink.
Why does
/netdot/cable_plant/cable_plant.html?start_id=4&page_type=BACKBONE only
show cables that start in that site, not that end? Nearlink/farlink again?
Why do devices have a site and room location, but not a closet location?
Also, the list isn't filtered when you select a site.
--
James Andrewartha
Network & Projects Engineer
Christ Church Grammar School
Claremont, Western Australia
Ph. (08) 9442 1757
Mob. 0424 160 877
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