They're documented because ND uses those methods when they create new API
components. Just because we can't use them doesn't mean that no one can.
(Besides, we want to encourage ND to document more!!! <G>)
-- Grace
----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brendan Cully <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
> Brendan:
>
> You're right. There is a package declaration at the top of my page's Java
file.
>
> I can't argue that there's a bug anymore - just that I think that the
methods
> should be public. Why are they documented if they're not at all
accessible to
> programmers?
>
> If you look at the HTML generated for nested repeateds and then look at
the
> values returned in the Hashtable associated with the submitted form,
you'll see
> that not all of the data is accessible when mulitple fields have the same
name
> (including subscript).
>
> -steve
>
>
> "Brendan Cully" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07/06/99 07:43 PM GMT
>
> To: Steven H. Bergstein@Andersen Consulting
> cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
>
>
>
>
> Even beyond the fact that you're subclassing a subclass of CspPage which
you
> say is in its own package, I'm pretty sure that ND projects are all put
into
> their own packages with the same name as the project name, so you've lost
> package rights already. Are you sure there's no line like "package
> MyTestProject;" at the top of your page? I've never tried to get ND to
work
> without packaging each project separately...
>
> I don't think it's possible for it to be an ND bug if protected methods
> aren't available - that is really up to the java compiler, which is
standard
> Sun javac. Either the methods aren't actually protected or you aren't in
the
> same package. I do believe you're right about the definition of
"protected"
> in Java, though - I remember being very surprised by it...
>
> I still don't really understand what you're trying to do that you can't do
> with nested repeateds, though.
>
> -Brendan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 06 July, 1999 15:25
> To: Curt Springer
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
>
> Curt:
>
> According to both sources I cited below, the only access control level not
> available to classes in the same package is private. However, the people
> who
> set up my development environment have subclassed CSpPage with a new page
> class
> that my page extends. Naturally, that new page class is defined as being
in
> a
> different package: this explains why the methods were not available.
>
> In terms of the two dimensional array: the subscripts are in the generated
> Html
> (I discovered all of this my viewing the source of the pages generated).
I
> am
> currently using nested repeating objects but there is no way to get the
> updated
> values of user-modifiable fields when more than one has exactly the same
> name.
> I also confirmed my suspicions by displaying all of the keys and values in
> the
> Hashtable returned when the page is submitted.
>
> Nonetheless, I still think that ND made an error here. These methods
allow
> a
> programmer to focus on changing the HTML s/he needs to without worrying
> about
> other parts and therefore should be public (of course I can also try to
> fight
> this battle with the folks who set up the new page class).
>
> -steve
>
>
>
> Curt Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 07/06/99 06:41 PM GMT
>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> cc: (bcc: Steven H. Bergstein)
> Subject: Re: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
>
>
>
>
> At 02:08 PM 7/6/99 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >I don't mean to be dense.
> >
> >According to both _Teach_Yourself_Java_in_21_Days_ and
> _Java_in_a_Nutshell_,
> >protected methods should also be available to other classes in the same
> package.
> >The two classes in question are both in the package spider.visual. Thus,
> the
> >method should be available.
>
> I think you're confusing 'protected' and 'package protection'.
>
> file://available to all descendants of current class:
> protected Object myobject;
>
> file://available to all classes in same package (no
private/protected/public
> keyword)
> Object myobject;
>
>
> >
> >As to what I'm trying to do: I'm trying to create a two-dimensional array
> of
> >check boxes. In order to do this, it appears that I need to override the
> >subscripting of the repeated fields because NetDynamics numbers each
row's
> >fields as [0], [1], [2], [3], and [4] (actually there is no subscript at
> all for
> >the [0]).
>
> I don't believe that the subscripts are actually written into the html
that
> is produced. Rather, they are assigned when multiple values come back
with
> the same field name.
>
> You don't need to muck with the html. You should be able to do what you
> need to do by using nested CSpRepeateds.
>
>
> >
> >I wanted to use the getHtmlNameText and getHtmlValueText methods to
assist
> me in
> >creating the HTML in the OnBeforeHtmlOutputEvent method.
> >
> >There are workarounds for me, but the issue seems to be that the methods
> are
> >unavailable when they shouldn't be.
>
> I don't think you need these methods. I never heard of them until you
> mentioned them. From a quick glance at the javadoc, it appears that they
> are indeed internal methods. For the most part, I think ND has called it
> right in determining which methods are public, and which are protected.
>
> -- Curt Springer, Team ND
>
> >
> >-steve
> >
> >
> >"Grace Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >07/06/99 05:38 PM GMT
> >
> >To: "Steven Bergstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc:
> Steven H.
> > Bergstein)
> >Subject: Re: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Let me take a whack at this.
> >
> >You are attempting to use CSpDisplayField.getHtmlValueText (which is
> >protected) within a method in a subclass of CSpPage.
> >
> >CSpDisplayField is a child of CSpVisual.
> >
> >CSpPage is a child of CSpCommonPage which is a child of
CSpDataDrivenVisual
> >which is a child of CSpVisual.
> >
> >That makes CSpPage sort of a distant cousin to CSpDisplayField.
> >
> >Thus, the protected methods of CSpDisplayField are not accessible to
> methods
> >within CSpPage.
> >
> >Now, you've said that "getHtmlText" returns more information than what
you
> >want. Perhaps if you tell us what you're trying to accomplish, we can be
> of
> >more help.
> >
> >-- Grace
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Steven Bergstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Newsgroups: netdynamics.public.support.nd4.talk
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 1999 12:55 PM
> >Subject: Re: [ND] Using spider.visual.CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Please ignore the previous post.
> >>
> >> Protected methods are supposed to be
> >> available to subclasses and to other members
> >> of the same package. I am trying to make a
> >> call to these methods from within a CSpPage
> >> which is a member of the spider.visual
> >> package, as is CSpDisplayField.
> >>
> >> The getHtmlText method returns more information than I am interested
in,
> >requiring parsing.
> >>
> >> This seems like a bug to me.
> >>
> >> -steve
> >>
> >> Curt Springer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >These are protected methods, available only to children of
> >CSpDisplayField.
> >> >
> >> >Use getHtmlText.
> >> >
> >> >-- Curt Springer, Team ND
> >> >
> >> >At 08:43 AM 7/6/99 -0800, Steven Bergstein wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>I'm trying to use CSpDisplayField.getHtmlNameText and
> >> >CSpDisplayField.getHtmlValueText
> >> >> in an OnBeforeHtmlOutput event but am finding that the methods do
not
> >> >exist. I'm
>
> >> >> passing a CSpDisplayAttributes object and have imported
> >spider.visual.*.
> >> >>
> >> >>Has anyone used these methods successfully? Am I missing something?
> >> >>
> >> >>Thanks for your help.
> >> >>
> >> >>-steve
> >>
>
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