Troy,
We tested using bookmark after the session expired and found the bookmark did not
work long time ago. Our purpose of using the page flow is to fill the hole between the
time that a valid user logs out and his/her session expires. For now, we will just
reduced the session expire time.
Thanks a lot for your help,
Ivy Wang
"Troy Mckinnon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>That is the problem right there...
>
>it is a bookmark after a hyper link isn't it.
>
>
>Notice the Session ID is tagged along with the url / bookmark.
>
>
>This will still work while the user session ID has not expired yet...
>
>i.e. whatever it is set to in the project properties (10 min??)
>
>Try setting your session time out to a lower value.. then wait till it
>expires and use the bookmark....
>
>it shouldn't work.
>
>---------------------
>
>if you are still having trouble with this I would suggest you do custom code
>to check for the login..
>
>or use javascript / java to change the url
>i.e. remove the session info.. similar to a button event.
>
>example:
>
>istead of:
>
>
>http://localhost:80/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/PageFlowTest/pgMain.Href1_onWebEvent(H
>
>ref1)?Href1=&SPIDERSESSION=%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%5f%3f%3f%3f%40%5b%3f%3f%3f%3fBOs%
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>
>
>make it:
>
>
>
>(Button1)
> or
> http://localhost:80/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/PageFlowTest/pgMain
>
> or whatever
>
>
>
>Troy McKinnon
>Technical Team Leader
>Integrated Quality Management System
>Software Solutions Group
>Nortel Networks - (Dept. 1P64)
>(613) 765-7685 or ESN (395) 7685
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Wang, Xiaofeng [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:23 PM
>> To: Mckinnon, Troy [SKY:1P64:EXCH]
>> Subject: RE: [ND] How can I make the page flow work in ND4.13?
>>
>> Troy,
>>
>> Thanks for spending time to talk to me over the phone this morning. After
>> that, I created a brand new project and put two blank pages (pgMain and
>> pgFollowing) into it. pgMain has a link to the pgFollowing and
>> pgFollowing
>> has pgMain in it's page flow. I can still go to pgFollowing by using a
>> bookmark. The bookmark for pgFollowing is:
>>
>> http://localhost:80/cgi-bin/ndCGI.exe/PageFlowTest/pgMain.Href1_onWebEvent
>> (H
>> ref1)?Href1=&SPIDERSESSION=%3f%3f%3f%3f%3f%5f%3f%3f%3f%40%5b%3f%3f%3f%3fBO
>> s%
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>> hT
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>>
>> Do you see anything wrong with this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Ivy Wang
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Troy Mckinnon [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 1999 5:31 PM
>> > To: 'Ivy Wang'
>> > Subject: RE: [ND] How can I make the page flow work in ND4.13?
>> >
>> > The page flow should work..
>> >
>> > keep in mind that wiht ND page flow mulitple page values are OR'd not
>> > ANDed.
>> >
>> > i.e. if you have page 3 which has page flow containing: page1, and
>> > page2...
>> >
>> > user can access page 3 if they had visited page1 OR page2 .. they don't
>> > have to go to both first.
>> >
>> > -------
>> >
>> > If you are having trouble with page flow however and you need a quick
>> > fix...
>> >
>> > just set up your own UserSessionObject that is a boolean like
>> > isLoggedIn...
>> > Then you can just check this value on neccessary pages.
>> >
>> > Although I would suggest working a little more with the page flow..
>> since
>> > that is what it is there for.
>> >
>> >
>> > Cheers
>> >
>> >
>> > Troy McKinnon
>> > Technical Team Leader
>> > Integrated Quality Management System
>> > Software Solutions Group
>> > Nortel Networks - (Dept. 1P64)
>> > (613) 765-7685 or ESN (395) 7685
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > We are trying to use the page flow attribute of a ND page to prevent
>> > user from using
>> > bookmark to skip the login page and access the rest of the pages in the
>> > project.
>> > For example, we have a main page that should not be accessed unless a
>> user
>> > goes
>> > through the login page. So we put the login page in the page flow
>> > attribute of the
>> > main page. However, if I have a bookmark for the main page, I will
>> still
>> > be able to
>> > access the main page without going through the login page. Does anyone
>> > know
>> > how to make the page flow work in ND4.13?
>> >
>> > Thanks in advance for your help,
>> > Ivy Wang
>> >
>> _________________________________________________________________________
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><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">That is the problem =
>right there...</FONT>
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><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">it is a bookmark =
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><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Notice the Session =
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><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">This will still work =
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>
><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">i.e. whatever it is =
>set to in the project properties (10 min??)</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Try setting your =
>session time out to a lower value.. then wait till it expires and use =
>the bookmark....</FONT>
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>
><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">it shouldn't =
>work.</FONT>
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>
><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">if you are still =
>having trouble with this I would suggest you do custom code to check =
>for the login..</FONT>
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>
><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">or use javascript / =
>java to change the url </FONT>
><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">i.e. remove the =
>session info.. similar to a button event.</FONT>
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><P><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">example:</FONT>
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>1_onWebEvent(Button1" =
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><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#C0C0C0" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Verdana">Technical Team =
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>Quality Management System</FONT>
><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#C0C0C0" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Verdana">Software =
>Solutions Group </FONT>
><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#C0C0C0" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Verdana">Nortel Networks - =
>(Dept. 1P64)</FONT>
><BR><FONT COLOR=3D"#C0C0C0" SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">(613) =
>765-7685� or� ESN (395) 7685</FONT>
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><P><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">-----Original Message-----</FONT>
><BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">From:��</FONT></B> <FONT =
>SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Wang, Xiaofeng =
>[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]</FONT>
><BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Sent:��</FONT></B> <FONT =
>SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">Thursday, December 02, 1999 4:23 PM</FONT>
><BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
>FACE=3D"Arial">To:����</FONT></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 =
>FACE=3D"Arial">Mckinnon, Troy [SKY:1P64:EXCH]</FONT>
><BR><B><FONT SIZE=3D1 =
>FACE=3D"Arial">Subject:�������</FONT>=
></B> <FONT SIZE=3D1 FACE=3D"Arial">RE: [ND] How can I make the page =
>flow work in ND4.13?</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Troy,</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks for spending time to talk to me =
>over the phone this morning.� After</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">that, I created a brand new project =
>and put two blank pages (pgMain and</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">pgFollowing) into it.� pgMain =
>has a link to the pgFollowing and pgFollowing</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">has pgMain in it's page flow.� I =
>can still go to pgFollowing by using a</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">bookmark.� The bookmark for =
>pgFollowing is:</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><U><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF" SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial"><A =
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>ain.Href1_onWebEvent(H</A></FONT></U>
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><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Do you see anything wrong with =
>this?</FONT>
></P>
>
><P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Thanks,</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Ivy Wang</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> -----Original =
>Message-----</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> From: Troy Mckinnon =
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, =
>1999 5:31 PM</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> To:�� 'Ivy =
>Wang'</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> =
>flow work in ND4.13?</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> The page flow should work.. =
></FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> keep in mind that wiht ND page =
>flow mulitple page values are OR'd not</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ANDed. </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> i.e. if you have page 3 which =
>has page flow containing: page1, and</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> page2... </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> user can access page 3 if they =
>had visited page1 OR page2 .. they don't</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> have to go to both first. =
></FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ------- </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> If you are having trouble with =
>page flow however and you need a quick</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> fix... </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> just set up your own =
>UserSessionObject that is a boolean like</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> isLoggedIn... </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Then you can just check this =
>value on neccessary pages. </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Although I would suggest working =
>a little more with the page flow.. since</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> that is what it is there for. =
></FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Cheers </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Troy McKinnon </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Technical Team Leader </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Integrated Quality Management =
>System </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Software Solutions Group </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Nortel Networks - (Dept. 1P64) =
></FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> (613) 765-7685� or� =
>ESN (395) 7685 </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ����� =
>-----Original Message----- </FONT>
>December 01, 1999 5:13 PM </FONT>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> =
>the page flow work in ND4.13? </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ����� =
>Hi everyone, </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ����� =
>We are trying to use the page flow attribute of a ND page to =
>prevent</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> user from using </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> bookmark to skip the login page =
>and access the rest of the pages in the</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> project. </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> For example, we have a main page =
>that should not be accessed unless a user</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> goes </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> through the login page.� So =
>we put the login page in the page flow</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> attribute of the </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> main page.� However, if I =
>have a bookmark for the main page, I will still</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> be able to </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> access the main page without =
>going through the login page.� Does anyone</FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> know </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> how to make the page flow work =
>in ND4.13? </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> ����� =
>Thanks in advance for your help, </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> Ivy Wang </FONT>
><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">> =
>________________________________________________________________________=
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