Joel wrote:
>>However, servlets are more powerful than JSP.
>>The tradeoff is that servlets are more complex,
>>especially for web designers who only know HTML.'
Curt wrote:
>How so? AFAIK all of the application objects available to servlet
>programmers (request, response, session, etc.) are equally available as
JSP
The ease of JSP assumes that you use typical HTML, and typical bean
naming.
For example, JSP properties are automatically translated into bean
settings.
With a servlet, you can handle complex data types (like streaming media),
and integrate with code that lacks typical bean naming, e.g. legacy Java.
I suppose that all of this could be done with JSP, but I think that would
miss the point of using JSP.
>Competitors are selling point/clicky IDEs for JSPs, beans, and servlets
Yes, and I hope these IDEs will improve quickly.
Which tools have you tried? What works for you?
>Ideally there would not be any tradeoff, but from what I have seen,
>code generators tend to generate app-specific code that extends
>proprietary classes (sound familiar?)
Yes. This is an issue with ND, NAS, WebLogic, and ColdFusion.
I don't know about WebSphere, BlueStone, or others like that.
What I would really like is a tool like Macromedia Dreamweaver
that is written with a solid understanding of how Java bean
developers like us actulaly work and respects our needs.
Does anyone else here have experience with these kinds of tools?
Cheers,
Joel
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