Hi,
I think you could do what you want to do, but I wonder if it will be worth
all the trouble to develop it and make it work.
If you go the way that I was talking about, it would push you into EJBs,
perhaps before you are ready.
Another route would be to get some sort of direct reference to the ND5 JDBC
service, perhaps via JNDI or CORBA naming service or something. I really
don't know. That route might also force you to code at a lower level than
you want to be at.
I remember railing in here not long ago about how people were naive to
think they could just chuck all the added value of ND and go right into
using J2EE out of the box. I've since backed off from that position. The
out of the box functionality of JDBC, servlets, JSP, beans, and basic java
is very high, which lessens the value add of ND and competitors'
proprietary development environments. I would urge you to ask yourself the
same question that I am about to explore soon: "How hard would it _really_
be to write (or steal) my own JDBC connection pooling mechanism".
Happy Boxing Day (official),
Curt Springer, Team ND
At 12:18 PM 12/27/99 -0500, Gregory Bohmer wrote:
>Greetings Curt. Well, the rationale was to leverage some of the
>better J2EE app servers out there (for use of JSP and servlets),
>but to still use NetD for now with it's proven CSpDataObject
>wrappers and built-in connection pooling and server thread
>management. We're moving towards an HTML/XHTML
>front-end but have no desire to learn the proprietary NetD
>event structure. And with this approach, we can still
>develop under J2EE and "plop" the J2EE components in
>the iPlanet server (or any J2EE compliant server for that
>matter), when it comes out. Doesn't that appear to be
>sound logic?
>
>So, how do you connect to the NetD objects without using
>their CSpClientSideLoader (for applets) or proprietary web
>events (for HTML)? I took to the NetD 4 training but not the
>NetD 5 training.
>
>Regards and Happy Holidays!
>Gregory, HHMI
>
>
>
>Curt Springer wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > You can certainly do that. As I recall, that is/was one of the lab
> > exercises in the ND5 basic course, a swing app that connected to EJBs on
> > the server.
> >
> > I guess I don't know why you'd want to invest the time at this point.
> >
> > -- Curt Springer, Team ND
> >
> > At 02:47 PM 12/17/99 -0500, Gregory Bohmer wrote:
> > >Hi everybody! Has anyone ever tried to connect to the NetD
> > >app server without using a web front-end? For instance, can
> > >I make use of the great features of NetD on the server side
> > >(db connetion pooling, CSpDataObjects, etc) from a simple
> > >Java application (it could even be running on the same NetD
> > >app server machine)????
> > >
> > >Let's see what kind of discussion this starts up... :-)
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Gregory
> > >
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