Hi,

as of the time netfilter got merged into the kernel it has become a big
set of patches which do or do not go well to the current kernel. We have
this thing called newnat and everything.

Nowadays I have a set of production routers and NAT staff that are based
on the netfilter and other stuff and I see there is a lot of good stuff
in patches that would be useful and I would like to test these and if they
work move to production. But..

How much does netfilter depend on the rest of the kernel development? Not
a very much as long as the hooks stay and are enabled. I've lately become
aware that building a big all-in-one kernel is coming more and more
trouble and it is easier to build the basic kernel and after that build
lm_sensors and ipsec and everything after that as their own components.

In this case, the FreeSWAN and lm_sensors provide me alternative way from
bringing the main kernel source tree up to date. They have a standalone
module build that depends on the main kernel source tree but does not try
to patch it, rather uses their own builds.

I think what netfilter is lacking is a development branch, this big
bunch of patches is coming uncontrollable atleast that is how I saw it
when I tried to patch the things I wanted to try to one packet.

What do you think, could it be worthy to still have a development brach
of netfilter living outside the Linus controlled main tree?

Hope I make sense..

Thanks,
 Sampsa Ranta
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