On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 11:35:19AM +0900, Takuya Satoh wrote:
> > > Perfectly clear, thanks.  So the FTOS target (but not the new DSCP) can
> be
> > > also used to selectively remove the ECN-enabled bit from syn packets
> going
> > > to some "bad" hosts throwing away any ECN-enabled connection (until the
> new
> > > ECN target is finished ...).
> >
> > NO, you can NOT!!!  Please DON'T do this.  YOU are causing ECN blackholes
> > this way.
> >
> > In order to work around ECN blackholes, one needs to clear the ECN bits
> > in the TCP header, not IP header.
> 
> Please can you explain further which bits in TCP header exactly?  I thought
> that was the purpose of the planned ECN target to work around "brain-death"
> ISPs, which have firewalls blocking any ECN-enabled traffic, by zeroing the
> IP ECN bits without disabling ECN globally (please see the original letter
> of this thread).  So far I couldn't use ECN because of one POP3 provider
> which is blocking the ECN-enabled traffic but I want to experiment with ECN
> because of some really nasty intercontinental packet lost on my route.

Why do I have to explain something which can be easily concluded from 
reading existing documentation.  The ECN target is (will be) about TCP ECN
bits.


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