Martin, Andy, 

On 8/28/15, 2:41 AM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund"
<[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

>Andy Bierman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I started a new subject line because the way logical vs. physical
>>systems
>> are managed is a separate issue from the others.
>> 
>>    +--rw device
>>       +--rw logical-network-elements
>>          +--rw logical-network-element* [network-element-id]
>>             +--rw network-element-id                  uint8
>>             +--rw network-element-name?               string
>>             +--rw default-networking-instance-name?   string
>>             +--rw system-management
>>             |  +--rw device-view?             boolean
>>             |  +--rw syslog
>>             |  +--rw dns
>>             |  +--rw ntp
>>             |  +--rw statistics-collection
>>             |  +--rw ssh
>>             |  +--rw tacacs
>>             |  +--rw snmp
>>             |  +--rw netconf
>> 
>> 
>> I do not know of any systems where the logical view
>> is managed with an array entry like in this proposal.
>> Usually the protocol (or CLI command) picks one logical context
>> and the PDU is for that one logical system.  Each logical system
>> is self-contained so that the data models are written for
>> a single system.
>> 
>> Putting the multiplexing in the data model
>> adds a lot of extra complexity and protocol overhead for
>> systems that do not have virtual servers.
>
>+1
>
>I also believe that it is too limiting.  Some systems might do it this
>way, but then there are others that have the concept of "virtual
>system" that works differently.  For example, the virtual system might
>give you your very own sandbox not just for the data model but also
>for the underlying config data store.  There are essentially separate
>instances of a NETCONF server running (or other protocol).

Well, I guess you are recommending going down the same path as SNMP where
each vendor supported multiple virtual routers and instances differently.
IMO, this is undesirable.

Acee 



>
>
>> When it comes to converting this tree to CLI (since this
>> is a common practice) the "interfaces" command will become
>> "devices interfaces", "system" becomes "device system", etc.
>> I don't know of any CLIs that work this way.
>> 
>> The "nacm enable false" command will become
>> 
>> device logical-network-elements logical-network-element 1 \
>> system-management netconf nacm enable false
>
>And this would be a weird place for NACM.  Would there be another NACM
>for logical-network-element 2?  They would share the same root, so are
>rules somehow merged?
>
>Ditto for the snmp container btw.
>
>
>/martin
>
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