Martin Bjorklund <[email protected]> writes:

> Juergen Schoenwaelder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 03:19:14PM +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> > 
>> > Martin Bjorklund <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > 
>> > > I think we agreed that is ok for a YANG 1.1 module to import a YANG
>> > > 1.0 module.
>> > > 
>> > > But should it also be ok for a 1.0 module to import a 1.1 module?
>> > > 
>> > > If we make this illegal, we might run into problems.  For example,
>> > > ietf-ip imports ietf-interfaces.  Suppose we update ietf-interfaces
>> > > and the new version use YANG 1.1.  Is it ok for a server to implement
>> > > the 1.0 version of ietf-ip and 1.1 version of ietf-interfaces?  If the
>> > > answer is no, it means that we either have to update all modules to
>> > > 1.1 more or less at the same time (including vendor models!), or we
>> > > keep existing modules on 1.0 "forever".
>> > 
>> > I suggest we add this text:
>> > 
>> > -------------------
>> > 
>> > * Coexistence with YANG version 1
>> > 
>> > A YANG version 1.1 module MUST NOT include a YANG version 1 submodule,
>> > and vice versa.
>> 
>> Vice versa? I assume you mean 'a YANG version 1 module MUST NOT
>> include a YANG version 1.1 submodule. Perhaps it is clearer to spell
>> this out explicitly?
>
> Ok.
>
>> 
>> > A YANG version 1 module or submodule MUST NOT import a YANG version
>> > 1.1 module by revision.
>> > 
>> > A YANG version 1.1 module or submodule MAY import a YANG version
>> > 1 module by revision.
>> > 
>> > A YANG version 1.1 module or submodule MAY import a YANG version 1
>> > module without revision, and vice versa.  This rule exists in order to
>> > allow implementations of existing YANG version 1 modules together with
>> > YANG version 1.1 modules.  Without this rule, updating a single module
>> > to YANG version 1.1 would have a cascading effect on modules that
>> > import it, requiring all of them to also be updated to YANG version
>> > 1.1, and so on.
>> 
>> Again, perhaps expand 'vice versa' to be very clear.
>
> Ok.
>
>> The interesting case here if I understand things correctly is a YANG
>> version 1 module or submodule importing from a YANG 1.1 module, which
>> is legal if the import is without a revision. Hm. So in order to avoid
>> a cascading effect, I have to avoid import by revision and then I am
>> golden?
>
> No you don't have to import by revision, according to the proposed rule.
>
>> What about importing by revision the last revision that is
>> still YANG 1?
>
> Sure, this is ok.
>
>> I heard that may be troublesome with the YANG library
>
> No, this works fine w/ YANG library.
>
>> but then perhaps the problem is there? I mean, if I import something
>> that only exists in a 1.1 version, should I then not really upgrade to
>> 1.1 as well?
>
> Sure.  The use case is for example servers that implement ietf-ip
> (which imports ietf-interfaces), and ietf-interfaces.  Suppose we
> update ietf-interfaces to 1.1.  It should still be ok for a server to
> implement ietf-ip with the new ietf-interfaces.
>
>> Would it not work if an import of ietf-interfaces from a
>> version 1 module simply resolves to the latest ietf-interfaces
>> revision that is still version 1?
>
> But that would mean either that a server is stuck implementing version
> 1 modules, or that the server must implement both the version 1 and
> version 1.1 module - and we have already said that this isn't
> possible.
>
> A set of simpler rules would be:
>
>    A YANG version 1.1 module MUST NOT include a version 1 module.
>    A YANG version 1 module MUST NOT include a version 1.1 module.
>
>    A YANG version 1.1 (sub)module MAY import a version 1 module.
>    A YANG version 1 (sub)module MAY import a version 1.1 module.

What about my proposal

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/_q3YcPR_KobOlFx5HWDA5Oa9oZo

Its advantage is that it doesn't automatically expose 1.0-only server to
1.1 stuff if a module that's imported without revision is upgraded to
1.1.

Lada

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