Kent Watsen <[email protected]> writes:

> [As a contributor]
>
> Hi Juergen,
>
> I agree with you that req #5 sticks out as the odd ball in the bunch.  I 
> suggested once to remove it a long time back, but I guess it fell on deaf 
> ears then.  Anyway, given where we are with this document, I’m unsure what to 
> do, but here are our options:
>
> 1. Leave requirement #5 in the document, but spend time improving it to WG 
> satisfaction.
>
> 2. Take requirement #5 out, declaring it an unwanted distraction from the 
> primary opstate focus.  We’d have to be sure to get sign-off from the OC 
> folks too...
>
> So far it sounds like Juergen and I are with #2, how about others?

I prefer #2.

Lada

>
> Thanks,
> Kent
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/18/15, 2:59 AM, "Juergen Schoenwaelder" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 09:27:12PM +0000, Kent Watsen wrote:
>>> [As a contributor]
>>> 
>>> Thank you for the review Juergen.
>>> 
>>> Great suggestions.  If no one objects, I’ll incorporate them into the next 
>>> revision of the document after last call.
>>> 
>>> My one comment is that I don’t believe the document is limited to the 
>>> introduction of applied configuration. For instance, the relating of config 
>>> to derived state and also the model structure requirement are not related 
>>> to applied config.  In all fairness, Requirement #5 (model structure) isn’t 
>>> even about operational state.
>>
>>Reading #5 again I must admit that I do not really understand what
>>this requirement tries to accomplish:
>>
>>   5.  Ability for distinct modules to leverage a common model-structure
>>
>>       A.  Focus on the IETF-defined modules, and ideally provides
>>           guidance to other SDOs
>>
>>       B.  Multiple domain-specific model-structure trees are okay
>>
>>       C.  Model-structures may be defined in multiple modules with
>>           distinct namespaces
>>
>>At this level of abstraction, #5 really does not mean anything or N
>>people will have at least N different interpretations of it. I
>>actually think this should be taken out and moved into a different
>>document and then it requires to be developed into something much more
>>concrete.
>>
>>/js
>>
>>> So your title and abstract suggestions might define too narrow a scope.  So 
>>> how about:
>>> 
>>> Title: Terminology and Requirements for Operational State and Model 
>>> Structure
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>>      This document defines requirements for enhancing the support
>>>      of operational state through the introduction of a conceptual
>>>      "applied configuration".  The document also defines requirements
>>>      enabling distinct modules to leverage a common model structure.
>>> 
>>> …and add an Introduction section that expands on this theme further?
>>
>>I think this is getting into the wrong direction and as explained
>>above #5 is by far underspecified to be of any value. I suggest to
>>take it out so that we can publish the rest in a timely manner. The
>>alternative is to hold off this document in an attempt to replace #5
>>with something that is concrete and actionable.
>>
>>/js
>>
>>-- 
>>Juergen Schoenwaelder           Jacobs University Bremen gGmbH
>>Phone: +49 421 200 3587         Campus Ring 1 | 28759 Bremen | Germany
>>Fax:   +49 421 200 3103         <http://www.jacobs-university.de/>
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