On 1/11/16, 2:54 PM, "netmod on behalf of Martin Bjorklund"
<netmod-boun...@ietf.org on behalf of m...@tail-f.com> wrote:

>Ladislav Lhotka <lho...@nic.cz> wrote:
>> Hi Gert,
>> 
>> > On 11 Jan 2016, at 14:25, Gert Grammel <ggram...@juniper.net> wrote:
>> > 
>> > Lada,
>> > 
>> > The requirement says:
>> >       D.  When a configuration change for any intended configuration
>> >           node has been successfully applied to the server (e.g. not
>> >           failed, nor deferred due to absent hardware) then the
>> >           existence and value of the corresponding applied
>> >           configuration node must match the intended configuration
>> >           node.
>> > 
>> > I don't see that this would limit the case you described below. In
>> > your case there is no intended config, hence there is no
>> > "corresponding applied configuration" either.
>> 
>> You are right, the requirement can be interpreted this way. I thought
>> that applied configuration was supposed to be identical to intended
>> after some synchronization period.
>
>This is a very important point to clarify.  Can there ever be data in
>"applied" that is not in "intended"?  I think Anees & Rob previously
>said "no", but I might be wrong.

My opinion is that there is a 1-1 relationship between “applied” and
“intended” config.

Thanks,
Acee 

>
>
>
>/martin
>
>
>> 
>> > 
>> > Besides that, the case you mentioned should be clearly in scope.
>> 
>> Great, then I am open to discussing what this could mean for the
>> existing modules (ietf-interfaces, ietf-routing, ACL etc.).
>> 
>> One useful change to YANG semantics could be that a leafref with
>> require-instance=true would refer to applied
>> configuration. Specifically, the ACL module could then simply use
>> "if:interface-ref" (with require-instance=true) as the type for
>> "input-interface".
>> 
>> Thanks, Lada
>> 
>> >  
>> > 
>> > --Gert
>> > 
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ladislav
>> >> Lhotka
>> >> Sent: 07 January 2016 11:20
>> >> To: NETMOD WG
>> >> Subject: [netmod] applied configuration and system-controlled entries
>> >> 
>> >> Hi,
>> >> 
>> >> a good use of applied configuration could be to formalize the concept
>> >> of
>> >> system-controlled entries as defined in RFC 7223, routing-cfg, and
>> >> probably
>> >> elsewhere, too.
>> >> 
>> >> My idea is that system-controlled interfaces or other entries would
>> >> appear in
>> >> applied configuration, but not in intended configuration until
>> >> something needs
>> >> to be really configured. We could then permit leafrefs from intended
>> >> configuration to refer to leafs in applied configuration. One case
>> >> where this
>> >> would be useful is the ACL module, where match conditions refering to
>> >> interfaces currently have to use plain strings as references to
>> >> interface names.
>> >> 
>> >> However, the above idea seems to be at odds with requirement 1D in
>> >> opstate-
>> >> reqs-02. I wonder: could that requirement be relaxed or removed so
>> >> that the
>> >> above use case can be supported?
>> >> 
>> >> Thanks, Lada
>> >> 
>> >> --
>> >> Ladislav Lhotka, CZ.NIC Labs
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>> >> 
>> >> 
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