Hi Robert,

You’re right, it should’ve been the <get-data> (not <get-config>).   However, I 
think that it’s better to use a flag on the <operational-state> datastore, 
rather than to define a new datastore.  Not only would it mimic how 
with-defaults works, but it also seems more intuitive from a retrieval 
perspective, as the diagnostics nodes could be sprinkled throughout a data 
model, and a single <get-data> could return all nodes (not just the 
diagnostics) for a given subtree.    Thoughts?

Separately, from a modelling perspective, presumably there would have to be an 
additional flag to go with the config false flag, something like the below.  Is 
this what you were envisioning?

    container thermostat {
        leaf configured-temperature {
            type int8;
        }
        leaf current-temperature {
            config false;
            type int8;
        }
        container diagnostics {
            config false;
            diagnostics true;    <-- new flag here
            ...
        }


Is all this leading up to a draft?  ;)

Kent  // contributor


From: Robert Wilton <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, December 12, 2016 at 6:10 AM
To: Kent Watsen <[email protected]>, Andy Bierman <[email protected]>
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [netmod] Modelling different "levels" of data in YANG


Hi Kent,

On 10/12/2016 00:59, Kent Watsen wrote:

> I prefer not to use specialized <get-foo> operations.

Agreed, I was thinking something more along the lines of:

   <get-config>
      <source>
         <operational-state/>
      </source>
      <with-diagnostics/>            <--- note this flag here
      <filter type="subtree">
         <top 
xmlns="http://example.com/schema/1.2/config";<http://example.com/schema/1.2/config>>
            <foo>
              <bar/>
            </foo>
         </top>
      </filter>
   </get-config>

Thus explicitly requesting all the extra stuff get returned...
Yes, that is roughly along the lines that I was thinking.

Or building on draft-nmdsdt-netmod-revised-datastores:
- presuming the existing of a <get-data/> operation to generically return the 
contents of any datastore,
- defining a new <diagnostics> datastore that contains the contents of the 
<operational-state> along with all config false schema nodes labelled as 
"diagnostics true".
   <get-data>
      <source>
         <diagnostics/>
      </source>
      <filter type="subtree">
        ....
  <get-data/>

Thanks,
Rob





> In the usage model that Rob described, the service tech will be
> setting diag-mode to 'system'  then retrieving the extra 'diag-stats',
>then setting diag-mode back to 'user'.

Right, but this does not seem ideal as the diag-mode toggle is a global setting 
that would affect all clients for some window of time, or do we envision 
diag-mode dropping the system down to single-user mode?


Kent  // contributor








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