Benoit Claise <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/24/2017 8:26 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > Kent Watsen <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi Andy,
> >>
> >> I think this discussion has come to a head.  Please submit an updated
> >> 6087bis as soon as you can.  Some comments:
> >>
> >>
> >> 1) on the 3rd line below, should the text clarify that --ietf is only
> >> for IETF modules?  Also, how does the MUST here jive with the SHOULD
> >> in Section 4.10?
> >>
> >>     - MUST use CODE BEGINS for a real module
> >>     - MUST NOT use CODE BEGINS for an example module
> >>     - MUST pass pyang --ietf for a real module
> >>     - MUST pass pyang for example module
> >>
> >>
> >> 2) related to #1, Section 5 says "In general, modules in IETF
> >> Standards Track specifications MUST comply with all syntactic and
> >> semantic requirements of YANG [RFC7950]."
> >>
> >>     First, what does "In general...MUST" mean?  - maybe the
> >>     sentence should start with "Modules in IETF..."?
> >>
> >>     Second, can we add a statement for non-IETF SDOs that might
> >>     have other conventions/restrictions?  Would we recommend
> >>     --strict for starters, until they can add an SDO-specific
> >>     flag (e.g., --<sdo>) to pyang?
> > We wouldn't talk about any specific tool;
> Note that the document does already.

Ok.

> See section 4.4:
> 
>    The 'pyang' compiler can be used to produce the tree diagram, using
>        the '-f tree' command line parameter.
> 
>        If the YANG module is comprised of groupings only, then the tree
>        diagram SHOULD contain the groupings.  The 'pyang' compiler can be
>        used to produce a tree diagram with groupings using the '-f tree
>        --tree-print-groupings" command line parameters.
> 
> Reviewing this yesterday, I was wondering: why not speak of yanglint?

Ok, well I just didn't want to push any specific tool.  It is fine if
the doc mentions some tools that gets the job done.


/martin


> In discussion with Radek about this, he mentioned:
> 
>    yes, libyang supports the tree format. However, in some details it
>    differs from pyang:
> 
>    - instead of the module prefixes, we use module names to avoid prefix
>      collisions.
>    - additionally, the default values (of the the leaf/leaf-lists/choice)
>      are printed
> 
> regards, Benoit
> > we'd just talk about
> > compliance with this document.  Other SDOs will have to decide on
> > their own rules, but we can suggest that they use all our rules except
> > the naming convention for modules and namespaces.
> >
> >
> >> 3) The first paragraph in Section 4.6 isn't clear, how about this?
> >>
> >>   OLD
> >>     This section contains the module(s) defined by the specification.
> >>     These modules SHOULD be written using the YANG syntax defined in
> >>     [RFC7950].  YANG 1.0 [RFC6020] MAY be used if no YANG 1.1 constructs
> >>     or semantics are needed in the module.
> >>
> >>   NEW
> >>     This section contains the module(s) defined by the YANG specification.
> >>     These modules SHOULD be written using the YANG 1.1 [RFC7950] syntax;
> >>     YANG 1.0 [RFC6020] syntax MAY be used if no YANG 1.1 constructs
> >>     or semantics are needed in the module.
> >>
> >>   Note: this reads better, but I wonder, since YANG 1.0 syntax is a
> >>   subset of YANG 1.1 syntax, what is really being said here? - that
> >>   yang-version statement is optional?  Or maybe, instead of focusing
> >>   on syntax, the statement should regard the version of YANG used?
> > The point is that yang-version 1.1 SHOULD be used, and yang-version 1
> > MAY be used.
> >
> >> 4) Lastly, picking up on this discussion:
> >>
> >>       https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/netmod/current/msg17277.html.
> >>
> >>     can add an Informational reference to RFC 4151 in Section 5.9?
> >>     Maybe something like this:
> >>
> >>   OLD
> >>
> >>     The following examples are for non-Standards-Track modules.  The
> >>     domain "example.com" SHOULD be used in all namespace URIs for example
> >>     modules.
> >>
> >>         http://example.com/ns/example-interfaces
> >>
> >>         http://example.com/ns/example-system
> >>
> >>   NEW
> >>
> >>     The following URIs exemplify what might be used by non Standards
> >>     Track modules.  Note that the domain "example.com" SHOULD be used
> >>     by example modules in IETF drafts.
> >>
> >>     Example URIs using URLs per RFC 3986 [RFC3986]:
> >>
> >>         http://example.com/ns/example-interfaces
> >>         http://example.com/ns/example-system
> >>
> >>     Example URIs using tags per RFC 4151 [RFC4151]:
> >>           tag:example.com,2017:example-interfaces
> >>         tag:example.com,2017:example-system
> > I would like to see urn:example:<module-name>, that's what I usually
> > use here.
> >
> >
> > /martin
> > .
> >
> 

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