Clyde

As Kent says, I would prefer to see only one XXXX with others being YYYY
or some such.

Further, I think that this RFC xxxx to be should be in the list of
References.

Adding it there would then solve my additional problem of which I-D you
have in mind.  There are two relating to key management and neither are
titled Keystore Management:-(  I can guess which you mean but I do not
think that I should be guessing!

Tom Petch


----- Original Message -----
From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" <[email protected]>
To: "t.petch" <[email protected]>; "Kent Watsen"
<[email protected]>; <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2017 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [netmod] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-netmod-syslog-model-15


> Tom,
>
> The agreement was that I should use “xxxx” until the two unapproved
RFCs that the model depends on are assigned numbers.
>
>      RFC xxxx: Keystore Management
>      RFC xxxx: Transport Layer Security (TLS) Client";
>
> Imported are:
>
>   import ietf-tls-client {
>     prefix tlsc;
>   }
>
>   import ietf-keystore {
>     prefix ks;
>   }
>
>
> Have numbers been assigned?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Clyde
>
> On 8/9/17, 4:32 AM, "t.petch" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Clyde
>
>     You use xxxx as a placeholder for three different RFC and two of
these
>     do not appear AFAICT in the list of References.
>
>     This might be a challenge for the RFC Editor.
>
>     Tom Petch
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Clyde Wildes (cwildes)" <[email protected]>
>     Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 6:48 PM
>
>
>     > Hi Alex,
>     >
>     > Answers inline as [clyde]…
>     >
>     > On 7/17/17, 4:20 PM, "netmod on behalf of Alex Campbell"
>     <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]>
wrote:
>     >
>     >     I am considering to implement the data model in this draft.
>     (dependent on business priorities of course)
>     >     I have reviewed this draft and found the following issues.
>     >
>     >     * I see pattern-match is specified to use POSIX 1003.2
regular
>     expressions. This is presumably for compatibility with existing
>     implementations; however it is inconsistent with most of YANG
(which is
>     specified to use XPath regular expressions) - unless these are the
same.
>     >
>     > [clyde] I believe that my answer in the other thread explains
why we
>     used Posix 1003.2 – it is commonly used.
>     >
>     >     * pattern-match is inside the facility-filter container;
common
>     sense says this is wrong as pattern-match has nothing to do with
>     facilities.
>     >
>     > [clyde] I will move pattern-match up one level in the next
version of
>     the draft. Thanks for catching this!
>     >
>     >     * The advanced-compare container groups together two nodes
that
>     share a common "when" and "if-feature" statement, but don't seem
to have
>     any semantic relation to each other. Are there general guidelines
on
>     when to use a container?
>     >
>     > [clyde] The confusion may come as a result of the when clause
>     appearing before the if-feature clause which is set by the IETF
>     statement order recommendation.
>     >
>     > The when construct was suggested by Martin Björklund as a way of
>     solving the case that advanced-compare does not apply for the ‘all
’ and
>     ‘none’ case.
>     >
>     > The if-feature applies to the entire container – it is either
>     supported or not.
>     >
>     >     * The advanced-compare container has a description starting
with
>     "This leaf ..." even though it is not a leaf.
>     >
>     > [clyde] This will be fixed in the next draft.
>     >
>     >     * The examples are missing <facility-filter> nodes.
>     >
>     > [clyde] This will be fixed in the next draft.
>     >
>     >     * Perhaps there should be more consistent terminology for
>     receivers of syslog messages; both "collectors" and "actions" are
used
>     in the draft. RFC 5424 uses "collector" for the ultimate recipient
of a
>     log message - which might not be applicable, because the sending
system
>     has no idea whether the receiving system is a collector or a
relay.
>     >
>     > [clyde] The definition of “collector” in RFC 5424 is: A
"collector"
>     gathers syslog content for further analysis.
>     >
>     > actions relate to the “further analysis” taken by the
 “collector”.
>     >
>     > “Collectors” appears in the model under the remote action and I
>     believe the usage is correct:
>     >       container remote {
>     >         if-feature remote-action;
>     >         description
>     >           "This container describes the configuration parameters
for
>     >            forwarding syslog messages to remote relays or
>     collectors.";
>     >
>     > I will revise the description of these terms in the next draft.
>     >
>     > Thanks,
>     >
>     > Clyde
>     >
>     >     ________________________________________
>     >     From: netmod <[email protected]> on behalf of Kent
Watsen
>     <[email protected]>
>     >     Sent: Saturday, 8 July 2017 6:34 a.m.
>
>
>
>

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