On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Phil Shafer <[email protected]> wrote:

> "t.petch" writes:
> >Inactive appears a dozen times but is not defined, except in the course
> >of those appearances it effectively is, but is sometimes 'inactive',
> >sometimes 'inactive configuration', sometimes 'inactive data'.
>
> Agree.  Consistent terms are good things.
>
> >I would find it clearer if the term was used consistently and if there
> >was an explicit definition amongst the other definitions in section 2
> >such as
> >
> >inactve configuration: Configuration that is present in <running> which
> >is not in use by the device and which plays no part in validation.  It
> >cannot appear in any other datastore.
>
> Inactive configuration should be allowed in <candidate> and <startup>,
> as well as in dynamic datastores.  It's hard to put constraints on
> a facility that we're really not defining.
>
> >The protocols that are currently
> >standardised do not support inactive configuration but a number of
> >proprietary protocols do.
>
> In JUNOS, we use the standard protocols but encoded these as
> non-standard attributes.
>
> >Inactive configuration is only exposed to
> >clients that indicate support for inactive configuration; clients not
> >indicating support for  inactive configuration receive the contents of
> ><running> with the inactive configuration removed.
>
> This is also not true for our implementation.  If you <get-config>
> on any datastore that contains inactive data, you'll receive
> that data.
>
>

But this means if any clients use the disable-node feature then all clients
need to know about the feature as well, or they will mistake these nodes
for enabled nodes (i.e., plain configuration according to the standard) .

I am in favor of waiting, and not defining new YANG rules that conflict
with real deployment. Better to wait until standard protocols need to
support
inactive vs. active configuration.



Thanks,
>  Phil
>

Andy


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