Nicely said, Martin. The intention is that if, like Ladislav, you like to work in some long-line format, then it works as documented and the tools can wrap. If, like me, and maybe like Martin, you think pretty formatting is something that improves readability, the draft also lets you do that.
A > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Bjorklund [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: 23 October 2018 17:04 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-kwatsen-netmod-artwork-folding- > 08 > > Ladislav Lhotka <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 16:27 +0200, Martin Bjorklund wrote: > > > Ladislav Lhotka <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 14:45 +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > 1. I think you miss the point. While example XML/JSON YANG is included > in > > > > > drafts, and while the authors are allowed to produce those drafts as txt > > > > > files, > > > > > or while the authors want to achieve pretty-to-read formatting, this work > > > > > falls > > > > > into the scope of those authors. > > > > > > > > The folding of long lines should be done as the very last (automatic) step > > > > before the document gets published. Doing it earlier means that the source > > > code > > > > in this folded form can be (accidentally) further edited, which can lead to > > > > inconsistencies. > > > > > > I will use folding e.g. for instance document examples in XML and > > > JSON. > > > > > > My plan is to keep the example files with manually added breaks in my > > > repo, and as part of validation run a script that unfolds the > > > examples, and then validate the result. The reason for this is that I > > > think readbility of the examples is important. > > > > This seems backwards to me. If you need to edit such an example, you may > have to > > remove the backslashes, reformat and insert them again. > > > > If it's not possible to fold lines according to the syntax of a given language, > > I'd prefer to keep the original lines as long as possible and rely on an > > automatic procedure just before the final document is rolled out. > > Fortunately, the draft allows us both to work the way we prefer. > > > /martin > > > > > > Lada > > > > > > > > > > > /martin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As long as the document is being moved around and edited, it would be > better > > > to > > > > keep the source code untouched. > > > > > > > > Lada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Yes, the authors discussed the <sourcecode> element and agreed that > it > > > will > > > > > be in scope. > > > > > > > > > > However, we are all sort of waiting for xml2rfc v3 and pending completion, > > > we > > > > > want to move this forward for v2 that is in use today. > > > > > > > > > > (More than) Happy to come back and revisit this issue when v3 is > deployed. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > Adrian > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: netmod [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ladislav > > > Lhotka > > > > > > Sent: 23 October 2018 14:24 > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > Subject: Re: [netmod] WG adoption poll draft-kwatsen-netmod- > artwork- > > > folding- > > > > > > 08 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 2018-10-23 at 14:40 +0200, Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I support the adoption. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Comments: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. My general feeling is that such technicalities should be handled by > > > > > > > the RFC editor and/or tools rather than YANG module and RFC > > > authors. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. xml2rfc v3 introduced a new element, <sourcecode>, that is > intended > > > > > > > for source code inclusion. This document should therefore cover > > > this > > > > > > > element as well (primarily?). One problem with it is that the > > > xml2rfc > > > > > > > tool automatically adds the <CODE BEGINS> and <CODE ENDS> > markers, > > > > > > > which interferes with YANG convention specified in RFC 8407, > > > > > > > sec. 3.2. I have already raised a question about this in the > > > > > > > xml2rfc-dev mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > Update: using the "name" attribute with <sourcecode> does the right > > > thing. > > > > > > > > > > > > <sourcecode name="[email protected]"> > > > > > > ... > > > > > > </sourcecode> > > > > > > > > > > > > results in > > > > > > > > > > > > <CODE BEGINS> file "[email protected]" > > > > > > ... > > > > > > <CODE ENDS> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lada > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lada > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou Berger <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is start of a two week poll on making > > > > > > > > draft-kwatsen-netmod-artwork-folding-08 a working group > > > > > > > > document. Please send email to the list indicating "yes/support" or > > > > > > > > "no/do not support". If indicating no, please state your > > > reservations > > > > > > > > with the document. If yes, please also feel free to provide > > > comments > > > > > > > > you'd like to see addressed once the document is a WG document. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The poll ends Oct 1. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lou (and co-chairs) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Ladislav Lhotka > > > > > > Head, CZ.NIC Labs > > > > > > PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > -- > > > > Ladislav Lhotka > > > > Head, CZ.NIC Labs > > > > PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > netmod mailing list > > > > [email protected] > > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod > > > > > > -- > > Ladislav Lhotka > > Head, CZ.NIC Labs > > PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 > > _______________________________________________ netmod mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netmod
