-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Juergen Schoenwaelder [mailto:[email protected]] 
发送时间: 2019年5月20日 14:20
收件人: Qin Wu <[email protected]>
抄送: [email protected]
主题: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-01.txt

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 05:57:02AM +0000, Qin Wu wrote:
> -----邮件原件-----
> 发件人: Juergen Schoenwaelder 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> 发送时间: 2019年5月17日 19:15
> 收件人: Qin Wu <[email protected]>
> 抄送: [email protected]
> 主题: Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-01.txt
> 
> I think this does not work:
> 
>       [...]  For <copy-config> operation,it can be used to copy
>       the factory default content to another datastore, however the
>       content of the datastore is not propagated automatically to any
>       other datastores.
> 
> You can't change the way things work. If something is committed to lets say 
> <running>, then this triggers the propagation to <intended> and eventually 
> <operational>. You can't come along and say that copy-config from a 
> particular source stops this.
> [Qin]:Automatic propagation we were referred to is that when we have 
> three datastores, let's say datastore A, datastore B, datastore C, one time 
> <copy-config> operation can not copy content of datastore A to datstore B and 
> datastore C at the same time, But you are right, content of <running> will be 
> automatically propagated to <intended> and <operational>, we will see how to 
> tweak the text.

This is not what the text says. And given the parameters of copy-config, it is 
obvious that you can't copy to multiple datastores.
 
> Is it really useful to expose factory default to copy config? Or said 
> differenlty, would it not make sense to fix copy-config (at some other
> place) so that it can generically work with new datastores?
> [Qin]: Note that this is just an option feature to <copy-config> to assign 
> one single target datastore with factory default content, I am wondering why 
> it can not be defined in this draft in a more generic way?
> Even in RFC6241bis or a separate draft, if you add this feature support to 
> <copy-config>, you will augment <copy-config> in the same way, if my 
> understanding is correct.

No. You would allow any datastore, not a specific one.

[Qin]: I see, I think we could put such generic extension in this draft?
e.g., define "leaf any"

>    The content of the factory-default datastore is usually not security
>    sensitive as it is the same on any device of a certain type.
> 
> I am not sure this is true.
> 
> For non-trivial devices, the default is likely not static but something that 
> takes into account device features available and the specific hardware 
> configuration present. It is actually somewhat unclear what the 
> factory-default datastore contains; the stuff I can expect to see in 
> <running> after the reset or some static stuff that may be tweaked during the 
> boot process to yield the initial <running>.
> Or are we pretending these two are always the same?
> [Qin]: We emphasize "usually not", to address your comments, we could add:
> "
> When its contents are considered sensitive, It is RECOMMENDED that the 
> factory default Data is encrypted."

You propose to invent another layer of encryption???
[Qin]: Not my intention, I think factory default data may have be encrypted 
already.
We could reuse it.

/js

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