发件人: Joe Clarke (jclarke) [mailto:[email protected]]
发送时间: 2019年11月19日 17:20
收件人: Qin Wu <[email protected]>
抄送: Kent Watsen <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
[email protected]
主题: Re: [netmod] [netconf] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-factory-default-05



[Qin]: Yes, resetting processes or restarting node did cover ZTP part, from 
Martin’s comment, I feel we don’t need to tie resetting process with RFC8572, 
since RFC8572 actually focuses on SZTP.
Actually we may have a lot of legacy ZTP mechanism we can leverage, I am not 
sure which reference I should stick to. Make sense?

It does.  You should remove the informative reference.

[Qin]: Okay

More importantly, though, how do you see this practically being implemented?  
With an ops dir hat, I’m walking through Section 2, and sending a factory-reset 
RPC to a device.  The device immediately resets <running> to default and 
<operational> to some similar default state.  The device has become unreachable 
within the network.  A reboot or other reset is optional to implement, so as an 
operator I’m not really sure what to expect at this point.

[Qin]:I am not sure we should make restart or reboot as mandatory after 
factory-reset rpc, I think factory-reset rpc affects kernel level, it will be 
good not to restart the node, if it touches hardware level, it is be important 
to reboot or restart the node. Another angle we can have is if factory-reset 
rpc is executed in the trust environment, it may be not necessary to restart 
the node or root.

Here’s my use case.  I have a switch that has a config (including a management 
IP [OOB or IB]).  When I send it the factory-default RPC, I now have a switch 
in the network I cannot reach.  It continues to run, but with a factory default 
config (which doesn’t include the management IP).  I now have a problem.  Sure, 
the switch may not need to reboot.  It might immediately do DHCP and begin a 
bootstrap workflow.  It may need a reboot to do that.

What I was asking is does it make sense to add some Operational Considerations 
text to let implementors and operators know about these types of things and 
encourage them (vendors in particular) to do think about how they will 
implement factory-default to ensure that these types of processes can be 
restarted without additional user intervention?

[Qin]: How about the add a few text at the end of section 2 to say:
OLD TEXT:
“
The "factory-reset" RPC MAY also be used to trigger some other resetting tasks 
such as restarting the node or some of the software processes.

”
NEW TEXT:
“
The "factory-reset" RPC MAY also be used to trigger some other resetting tasks 
such as restarting the node or some of the software processes,
especially after having onboard information being processed or when a specified 
boot image needs to be downloaded, verified and installed.
”
Joe
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